Date:   Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:15:17 +0200
From:   Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>
To:     Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>,
        Hillf Danton <hdanton@...a.com>
Cc:     netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        Jiri Kosina <JKosina@...e.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net v3] net: sched: fix packet stuck problem for lockless
 qdisc

On 13.04.21 11:03, Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> On 2021/4/13 16:33, Hillf Danton wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 15:57:29  Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>>> On 2021/4/13 15:12, Hillf Danton wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 11:34:27 Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>>>>> On 2021/4/13 11:26, Hillf Danton wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 13 Apr 2021 10:56:42 Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2021/4/13 10:21, Hillf Danton wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 12 Apr 2021 20:00:43  Yunsheng Lin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, the below patch seems to fix the data race described in
>>>>>>>>> the commit log.
>>>>>>>>> Then what is the difference between my patch and your patch below:)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hehe, this is one of the tough questions over a bounch of weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If a seqcount can detect the race between skb enqueue and dequeue then we
>>>>>>>> cant see any excuse for not rolling back to the point without NOLOCK.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not sure I understood what you meant above.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As my understanding, the below patch is essentially the same as
>>>>>>> your previous patch, the only difference I see is it uses qdisc->pad
>>>>>>> instead of __QDISC_STATE_NEED_RESCHEDULE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So instead of proposing another patch, it would be better if you
>>>>>>> comment on my patch, and make improvement upon that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Happy to do that after you show how it helps revert NOLOCK.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actually I am not going to revert NOLOCK, but add optimization
>>>>> to it if the patch fixes the packet stuck problem.
>>>>>
>>>> Fix is not optimization, right?
>>>
>>> For this patch, it is a fix.
>>> In case you missed it, I do have a couple of idea to optimize the
>>> lockless qdisc:
>>>
>>> 1. RFC patch to add lockless qdisc bypass optimization:
>>>
>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/1616404156-11772-1-git-send-email-linyunsheng@huawei.com/
>>>
>>> 2. implement lockless enqueuing for lockless qdisc using the idea
>>>    from Jason and Toke. And it has a noticable proformance increase with
>>>    1-4 threads running using the below prototype based on ptr_ring.
>>>
>>> static inline int __ptr_ring_multi_produce(struct ptr_ring *r, void *ptr)
>>> {
>>>
>>>         int producer, next_producer;
>>>
>>>
>>>         do {
>>>                 producer = READ_ONCE(r->producer);
>>>                 if (unlikely(!r->size) || r->queue[producer])
>>>                         return -ENOSPC;
>>>                 next_producer = producer + 1;
>>>                 if (unlikely(next_producer >= r->size))
>>>                         next_producer = 0;
>>>         } while(cmpxchg_relaxed(&r->producer, producer, next_producer) != producer);
>>>
>>>         /* Make sure the pointer we are storing points to a valid data. */
>>>         /* Pairs with the dependency ordering in __ptr_ring_consume. */
>>>         smp_wmb();
>>>
>>>         WRITE_ONCE(r->queue[producer], ptr);
>>>         return 0;
>>> }
>>>
>>> 3. Maybe it is possible to remove the netif_tx_lock for lockless qdisc
>>>    too, because dev_hard_start_xmit is also in the protection of
>>>    qdisc_run_begin()/qdisc_run_end()(if there is only one qdisc using
>>>    a netdev queue, which is true for pfifo_fast, I believe).
>>>
>>> 4. Remove the qdisc->running seqcount operation for lockless qdisc, which
>>>    is mainly used to do heuristic locking on q->busylock for locked qdisc.
>>>
>>
>> Sounds good. They can stand two months, cant they?
>>>>
>>>>> Is there any reason why you want to revert it?
>>>>>
>>>> I think you know Jiri's plan and it would be nice to wait a couple of
>>>> months for it to complete.
>>>
>>> I am not sure I am aware of Jiri's plan.
>>> Is there any link referring to the plan?
>>>
>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/eaff25bc-9b64-037e-b9bc-c06fc4a5a9fb@huawei.com/
> 
> I think there is some misunderstanding here.
> 
> As my understanding, Jiri and Juergen are from the same team(using
> the suse.com mail server).

Yes, we are.

> what Jiri said about "I am still planning to have Yunsheng Lin's
> (CCing) fix [1] tested in the coming days." is that Juergen has
> done the test and provide a "Tested-by" tag.

Correct. And I did this after Jiri asking me to do so.

> So if this patch fixes the packet stuck problem, Jiri is ok with
> NOLOCK qdisc too.

I think so, yes. Otherwise I don't see why he asked me to test the
patch. :-)

> Or do I misunderstand it again? Perhaps Jiri and Juergen can help to
> clarify this?

I hope I did. :-)


Juergen

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