netdev - Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] bpf: Remove bpf_jit

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Date:   Sat, 17 Apr 2021 10:16:22 +0200
From:   Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 1/2] bpf: Remove bpf_jit_enable=2 debugging mode



Le 16/04/2021 à 01:49, Alexei Starovoitov a écrit :
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 8:41 AM Quentin Monnet <quentin@...valent.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2021-04-15 16:37 UTC+0200 ~ Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>
>>> On 4/15/21 11:32 AM, Jianlin Lv wrote:
>>>> For debugging JITs, dumping the JITed image to kernel log is discouraged,
>>>> "bpftool prog dump jited" is much better way to examine JITed dumps.
>>>> This patch get rid of the code related to bpf_jit_enable=2 mode and
>>>> update the proc handler of bpf_jit_enable, also added auxiliary
>>>> information to explain how to use bpf_jit_disasm tool after this change.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Jianlin Lv <Jianlin.Lv@....com>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> For what it's worth, I have already seen people dump the JIT image in
>> kernel logs in Qemu VMs running with just a busybox, not for kernel
>> development, but in a context where buiding/using bpftool was not
>> possible.
> 
> If building/using bpftool is not possible then majority of selftests won't
> be exercised. I don't think such environment is suitable for any kind
> of bpf development. Much so for JIT debugging.
> While bpf_jit_enable=2 is nothing but the debugging tool for JIT developers.
> I'd rather nuke that code instead of carrying it from kernel to kernel.
> 

When I implemented JIT for PPC32, it was extremely helpfull.

As far as I understand, for the time being bpftool is not usable in my environment because it 
doesn't support cross compilation when the target's endianess differs from the building host 
endianess, see discussion at 
https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/21e66a09-514f-f426-b9e2-13baab0b938b@csgroup.eu/

That's right that selftests can't be exercised because they don't build.

The question might be candid as I didn't investigate much about the replacement of "bpf_jit_enable=2 
debugging mode" by bpftool, how do we use bpftool exactly for that ? Especially when using the BPF 
test module ?