Date:   Fri, 16 Apr 2021 17:23:01 -0700
From:   "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...nel.org>
To:     Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>
Cc:     Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>,
        Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>,
        Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@...il.com>, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, Jiri Benc <jbenc@...hat.com>,
        Eelco Chaudron <echaudro@...hat.com>, ast@...nel.org,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn.topel@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv7 bpf-next 1/4] bpf: run devmap xdp_prog on flush instead
 of bulk enqueue

On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 11:22:52AM -0700, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 03:45:23PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:39:13 -0700
> > Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 10:29:40PM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > > > Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com> writes:
> > > >   
> > > > > On Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:35:51 -0700
> > > > > Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com> wrote:
> > > > >  
> > > > >> On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:22:19AM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:  
> > > > >> > Hangbin Liu <liuhangbin@...il.com> writes:
> > > > >> >     
> > > > >> > > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 05:17:11PM -0700, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:    
> > > > >> > >> >  static void bq_xmit_all(struct xdp_dev_bulk_queue *bq, u32 flags)
> > > > >> > >> >  {
> > > > >> > >> >  	struct net_device *dev = bq->dev;
> > > > >> > >> > -	int sent = 0, err = 0;
> > > > >> > >> > +	int sent = 0, drops = 0, err = 0;
> > > > >> > >> > +	unsigned int cnt = bq->count;
> > > > >> > >> > +	int to_send = cnt;
> > > > >> > >> >  	int i;
> > > > >> > >> >  
> > > > >> > >> > -	if (unlikely(!bq->count))
> > > > >> > >> > +	if (unlikely(!cnt))
> > > > >> > >> >  		return;
> > > > >> > >> >  
> > > > >> > >> > -	for (i = 0; i < bq->count; i++) {
> > > > >> > >> > +	for (i = 0; i < cnt; i++) {
> > > > >> > >> >  		struct xdp_frame *xdpf = bq->q[i];
> > > > >> > >> >  
> > > > >> > >> >  		prefetch(xdpf);
> > > > >> > >> >  	}
> > > > >> > >> >  
> > > > >> > >> > -	sent = dev->netdev_ops->ndo_xdp_xmit(dev, bq->count, bq->q, flags);
> > > > >> > >> > +	if (bq->xdp_prog) {    
> > > > >> > >> bq->xdp_prog is used here
> > > > >> > >>     
> > > > >> > >> > +		to_send = dev_map_bpf_prog_run(bq->xdp_prog, bq->q, cnt, dev);
> > > > >> > >> > +		if (!to_send)
> > > > >> > >> > +			goto out;
> > > > >> > >> > +
> > > > >> > >> > +		drops = cnt - to_send;
> > > > >> > >> > +	}
> > > > >> > >> > +    
> > > > >> > >> 
> > > > >> > >> [ ... ]
> > > > >> > >>     
> > > > >> > >> >  static void bq_enqueue(struct net_device *dev, struct xdp_frame *xdpf,
> > > > >> > >> > -		       struct net_device *dev_rx)
> > > > >> > >> > +		       struct net_device *dev_rx, struct bpf_prog *xdp_prog)
> > > > >> > >> >  {
> > > > >> > >> >  	struct list_head *flush_list = this_cpu_ptr(&dev_flush_list);
> > > > >> > >> >  	struct xdp_dev_bulk_queue *bq = this_cpu_ptr(dev->xdp_bulkq);
> > > > >> > >> > @@ -412,18 +466,22 @@ static void bq_enqueue(struct net_device *dev, struct xdp_frame *xdpf,
> > > > >> > >> >  	/* Ingress dev_rx will be the same for all xdp_frame's in
> > > > >> > >> >  	 * bulk_queue, because bq stored per-CPU and must be flushed
> > > > >> > >> >  	 * from net_device drivers NAPI func end.
> > > > >> > >> > +	 *
> > > > >> > >> > +	 * Do the same with xdp_prog and flush_list since these fields
> > > > >> > >> > +	 * are only ever modified together.
> > > > >> > >> >  	 */
> > > > >> > >> > -	if (!bq->dev_rx)
> > > > >> > >> > +	if (!bq->dev_rx) {
> > > > >> > >> >  		bq->dev_rx = dev_rx;
> > > > >> > >> > +		bq->xdp_prog = xdp_prog;    
> > > > >> > >> bp->xdp_prog is assigned here and could be used later in bq_xmit_all().
> > > > >> > >> How is bq->xdp_prog protected? Are they all under one rcu_read_lock()?
> > > > >> > >> It is not very obvious after taking a quick look at xdp_do_flush[_map].
> > > > >> > >> 
> > > > >> > >> e.g. what if the devmap elem gets deleted.    
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Jesper knows better than me. From my veiw, based on the description of
> > > > >> > > __dev_flush():
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On devmap tear down we ensure the flush list is empty before completing to
> > > > >> > > ensure all flush operations have completed. When drivers update the bpf
> > > > >> > > program they may need to ensure any flush ops are also complete.    
> > > > >>
> > > > >> AFAICT, the bq->xdp_prog is not from the dev. It is from a devmap's elem.
> > 
> > The bq->xdp_prog comes form the devmap "dev" element, and it is stored
> > in temporarily in the "bq" structure that is only valid for this
> > softirq NAPI-cycle.  I'm slightly worried that we copied this pointer
> > the the xdp_prog here, more below (and Q for Paul).
> > 
> > > > >> > 
> > > > >> > Yeah, drivers call xdp_do_flush() before exiting their NAPI poll loop,
> > > > >> > which also runs under one big rcu_read_lock(). So the storage in the
> > > > >> > bulk queue is quite temporary, it's just used for bulking to increase
> > > > >> > performance :)    
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I am missing the one big rcu_read_lock() part.  For example, in i40e_txrx.c,
> > > > >> i40e_run_xdp() has its own rcu_read_lock/unlock().  dst->xdp_prog used to run
> > > > >> in i40e_run_xdp() and it is fine.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> In this patch, dst->xdp_prog is run outside of i40e_run_xdp() where the
> > > > >> rcu_read_unlock() has already done.  It is now run in xdp_do_flush_map().
> > > > >> or I missed the big rcu_read_lock() in i40e_napi_poll()?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I do see the big rcu_read_lock() in mlx5e_napi_poll().  
> > > > >
> > > > > I believed/assumed xdp_do_flush_map() was already protected under an
> > > > > rcu_read_lock.  As the devmap and cpumap, which get called via
> > > > > __dev_flush() and __cpu_map_flush(), have multiple RCU objects that we
> > > > > are operating on.  
> > >
> > > What other rcu objects it is using during flush?
> > 
> > Look at code:
> >  kernel/bpf/cpumap.c
> >  kernel/bpf/devmap.c
> > 
> > The devmap is filled with RCU code and complicated take-down steps.  
> > The devmap's elements are also RCU objects and the BPF xdp_prog is
> > embedded in this object (struct bpf_dtab_netdev).  The call_rcu
> > function is __dev_map_entry_free().
> > 
> > 
> > > > > Perhaps it is a bug in i40e?  
> > >
> > > A quick look into ixgbe falls into the same bucket.
> > > didn't look at other drivers though.
> > 
> > Intel driver are very much in copy-paste mode.
> >  
> > > > >
> > > > > We are running in softirq in NAPI context, when xdp_do_flush_map() is
> > > > > call, which I think means that this CPU will not go-through a RCU grace
> > > > > period before we exit softirq, so in-practice it should be safe.  
> > > > 
> > > > Yup, this seems to be correct: rcu_softirq_qs() is only called between
> > > > full invocations of the softirq handler, which for networking is
> > > > net_rx_action(), and so translates into full NAPI poll cycles.  
> > >
> > > I don't know enough to comment on the rcu/softirq part, may be someone
> > > can chime in.  There is also a recent napi_threaded_poll().
> > 
> > CC added Paul. (link to patch[1][2] for context)
> Updated Paul's email address.
> 
> > 
> > > If it is the case, then some of the existing rcu_read_lock() is unnecessary?
> > 
> > Well, in many cases, especially depending on how kernel is compiled,
> > that is true.  But we want to keep these, as they also document the
> > intend of the programmer.  And allow us to make the kernel even more
> > preempt-able in the future.
> > 
> > > At least, it sounds incorrect to only make an exception here while keeping
> > > other rcu_read_lock() as-is.
> > 
> > Let me be clear:  I think you have spotted a problem, and we need to
> > add rcu_read_lock() at least around the invocation of
> > bpf_prog_run_xdp() or before around if-statement that call
> > dev_map_bpf_prog_run(). (Hangbin please do this in V8).
> > 
> > Thank you Martin for reviewing the code carefully enough to find this
> > issue, that some drivers don't have a RCU-section around the full XDP
> > code path in their NAPI-loop.
> > 
> > Question to Paul.  (I will attempt to describe in generic terms what
> > happens, but ref real-function names).
> > 
> > We are running in softirq/NAPI context, the driver will call a
> > bq_enqueue() function for every packet (if calling xdp_do_redirect) ,
> > some driver wrap this with a rcu_read_lock/unlock() section (other have
> > a large RCU-read section, that include the flush operation).
> > 
> > In the bq_enqueue() function we have a per_cpu_ptr (that store the
> > xdp_frame packets) that will get flushed/send in the call
> > xdp_do_flush() (that end-up calling bq_xmit_all()).  This flush will
> > happen before we end our softirq/NAPI context.
> > 
> > The extension is that the per_cpu_ptr data structure (after this patch)
> > store a pointer to an xdp_prog (which is a RCU object).  In the flush
> > operation (which we will wrap with RCU-read section), we will use this
> > xdp_prog pointer.   I can see that it is in-principle wrong to pass
> > this-pointer between RCU-read sections, but I consider this safe as we
> > are running under softirq/NAPI and the per_cpu_ptr is only valid in
> > this short interval.
> > 
> > I claim a grace/quiescent RCU cannot happen between these two RCU-read
> > sections, but I might be wrong? (especially in the future or for RT).

If I am reading this correctly (ha!), a very high-level summary of the
code in question is something like this:

	void foo(void)
	{
		local_bh_disable();

		rcu_read_lock();
		p = rcu_dereference(gp);
		do_something_with(p);
		rcu_read_unlock();

		do_something_else();

		rcu_read_lock();
		do_some_other_thing(p);
		rcu_read_unlock();

		local_bh_enable();
	}

	void bar(struct blat *new_gp)
	{
		struct blat *old_gp;

		spin_lock(my_lock);
		old_gp = rcu_dereference_protected(gp, lock_held(my_lock));
		rcu_assign_pointer(gp, new_gp);
		spin_unlock(my_lock);
		synchronize_rcu();
		kfree(old_gp);
	}

I need to check up on -rt.

But first... In recent mainline kernels, the local_bh_disable() region
will look like one big RCU read-side critical section.  But don't try
this prior to v4.20!!!  In v4.19 and earlier, you would need to use
both synchronize_rcu() and synchronize_rcu_bh() to make this work, or,
for less latency, synchronize_rcu_mult(call_rcu, call_rcu_bh).

Except that in that case, why not just drop the inner rcu_read_unlock()
and rcu_read_lock() pair?  Awkward function boundaries or some such?

Especially given that if this works on -rt, it is probably because
their variant of do_softirq() holds rcu_read_lock() across each softirq
handler invocation.  They do something similar for rwlocks.

							Thanx, Paul

> > -- 
> > Best regards,
> >   Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> >   MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
> >   LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer 
> > 
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20210414122610.4037085-2-liuhangbin@gmail.com/
> > [2] https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/patch/20210414122610.4037085-2-liuhangbin@gmail.com/
> > 

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