netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] mm: add a signature in struct page

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Date:   Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:22:04 +0200
From:   Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
To:     Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 2/5] mm: add a signature in struct page

On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 13:09:47 -0700
Shakeel Butt <shakeelb@...gle.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jesper Dangaard Brouer
> <brouer@...hat.com> wrote:
> >  
> [...]
> > > >
> > > > Can this page_pool be used for TCP RX zerocopy? If yes then PageType
> > > > can not be used.  
> > >
> > > Yes it can, since it's going to be used as your default allocator for
> > > payloads, which might end up on an SKB.  
> >
> > I'm not sure we want or should "allow" page_pool be used for TCP RX
> > zerocopy.
> > For several reasons.
> >
> > (1) This implies mapping these pages page to userspace, which AFAIK
> > means using page->mapping and page->index members (right?).
> >  
> 
> No, only page->_mapcount is used.

Good to know.
I will admit that I don't fully understand the usage of page->mapping
and page->index members.

> > (2) It feels wrong (security wise) to keep the DMA-mapping (for the
> > device) and also map this page into userspace.
> >  
> 
> I think this is already the case i.e pages still DMA-mapped and also
> mapped into userspace.

True, other drivers are doing the same.

> > (3) The page_pool is optimized for refcnt==1 case, and AFAIK TCP-RX
> > zerocopy will bump the refcnt, which means the page_pool will not
> > recycle the page when it see the elevated refcnt (it will instead
> > release its DMA-mapping).  
> 
> Yes this is right but the userspace might have already consumed and
> unmapped the page before the driver considers to recycle the page.

That is a good point.  So, there is a race window where it is possible
to gain recycling.

It seems my page_pool co-maintainer Ilias is interested in taking up the
challenge to get this working with TCP RX zerocopy.  So, lets see how
this is doable.

 
> >
> > (4) I remember vaguely that this code path for (TCP RX zerocopy) uses
> > page->private for tricks.  And our patch [3/5] use page->private for
> > storing xdp_mem_info.
> >
> > IMHO when the SKB travel into this TCP RX zerocopy code path, we should
> > call page_pool_release_page() to release its DMA-mapping.
> >  
> 
> I will let TCP RX zerocopy experts respond to this but from my high
> level code inspection, I didn't see page->private usage.

I trust when Eric says page->private isn't used in this code path.
So, it might actually be possible :-)

I will challenge Ilias and Matteo to pull this off. (But I know that
both of them are busy for personal reasons, so be patient with them).

-- 
Best regards,
  Jesper Dangaard Brouer
  MSc.CS, Principal Kernel Engineer at Red Hat
  LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/brouer