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Date:   Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:21:15 +0200
From:   "gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
To:     Trond Myklebust <trondmy@...merspace.com>
Cc:     "a.shelat@...theastern.edu" <a.shelat@...theastern.edu>,
        "leon@...nel.org" <leon@...nel.org>,
        "davem@...emloft.net" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        "chuck.lever@...cle.com" <chuck.lever@...cle.com>,
        "dwysocha@...hat.com" <dwysocha@...hat.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kuba@...nel.org" <kuba@...nel.org>,
        "sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com" <sudipm.mukherjee@...il.com>,
        "bfields@...ldses.org" <bfields@...ldses.org>,
        "anna.schumaker@...app.com" <anna.schumaker@...app.com>,
        "pakki001@....edu" <pakki001@....edu>,
        "linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] SUNRPC: Add a check for gss_release_msg

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 01:11:03PM +0000, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2021-04-21 at 15:19 +0300, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 11:58:08AM +0000, Shelat, Abhi wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > They introduce kernel bugs on purpose. Yesterday, I took a
> > > > > > > look on 4
> > > > > > > accepted patches from Aditya and 3 of them added various
> > > > > > > severity security
> > > > > > > "holes".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All contributions by this group of people need to be
> > > > > > reverted, if they
> > > > > > have not been done so already, as what they are doing is
> > > > > > intentional
> > > > > > malicious behavior and is not acceptable and totally
> > > > > > unethical.  I'll
> > > > > > look at it after lunch unless someone else wants to do it…
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > <snip>
> > > 
> > > Academic research should NOT waste the time of a community.
> > > 
> > > If you believe this behavior deserves an escalation, you can
> > > contact the Institutional Review Board (irb@....edu) at UMN to
> > > investigate whether this behavior was harmful; in particular,
> > > whether the research activity had an appropriate IRB review, and
> > > what safeguards prevent repeats in other communities.
> > 
> > The huge advantage of being "community" is that we don't need to do
> > all
> > the above and waste our time to fill some bureaucratic forms with
> > unclear
> > timelines and results.
> > 
> > Our solution to ignore all @umn.edu contributions is much more
> > reliable
> > to us who are suffering from these researchers.
> > 
> 
> <shrug>That's an easy thing to sidestep by just shifting to using a
> private email address.</shrug>

If they just want to be jerks, yes.  But they can't then use that type
of "hiding" to get away with claiming it was done for a University
research project as that's even more unethical than what they are doing
now.

> There really is no alternative for maintainers other than to always be
> sceptical of patches submitted by people who are not known and trusted
> members of the community, and to scrutinise those patches with more
> care.

Agreed, and when we notice things like this that were determined to be
bad, we have the ability to easily go back and rip the changes out and
we can slowly add them back if they are actually something we want to
do.

Which is what I just did:
	https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20210421130105.1226686-1-gregkh@linuxfoundation.org/

thanks,

greg k-h

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