netdev - Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/16] bpf: syscall program, FD array, loader program, light skeleton.

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Message-ID: <4142514b-3a0f-f931-9a8c-fb72be9c66b3@fb.com>
Date:   Fri, 23 Apr 2021 14:36:43 -0700
From:   Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>
To:     Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        <davem@...emloft.net>
CC:     <daniel@...earbox.net>, <andrii@...nel.org>,
        <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        <kernel-team@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 bpf-next 00/16] bpf: syscall program, FD array, loader
 program, light skeleton.



On 4/22/21 5:26 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>
> 
> v1->v2: Addressed comments from Al, Yonghong and Andrii.
> - documented sys_close fdget/fdput requirement and non-recursion check.
> - reduced internal api leaks between libbpf and bpftool.
>    Now bpf_object__gen_loader() is the only new libbf api with minimal fields.
> - fixed light skeleton __destroy() method to munmap and close maps and progs.
> - refactored bpf_btf_find_by_name_kind to return btf_id | (btf_obj_fd << 32).
> - refactored use of bpf_btf_find_by_name_kind from loader prog.
> - moved auto-gen like code into skel_internal.h that is used by *.lskel.h
>    It has minimal static inline bpf_load_and_run() method used by lskel.
> - added lksel.h example in patch 15.
> - replaced union bpf_map_prog_desc with struct bpf_map_desc and struct bpf_prog_desc.
> - removed mark_feat_supported and added a patch to pass 'obj' into kernel_supports.
> - added proper tracking of temporary FDs in loader prog and their cleanup via bpf_sys_close.
> - rename gen_trace.c into gen_loader.c to better align the naming throughout.
> - expanded number of available helpers in new prog type.
> - added support for raw_tp attaching in lskel.
>    lskel supports tracing and raw_tp progs now.
>    It correctly loads all networking prog types too, but __attach() method is tbd.
> - converted progs/test_ksyms_module.c to lskel.
> - minor feedback fixes all over.
> 
> One thing that was not addressed from feedback is the name of new program type.
> Currently it's still:
> BPF_PROG_TYPE_SYSCALL, /* a program that can execute syscalls */

Do you have plan for other non-bpf syscalls? Maybe use the name
BPF_PROG_TYPE_BPF_SYSCALL? It will be really clear this is
the program type you can execute bpf syscalls.

> 
> The concern raised was that it sounds like a program that should be attached
> to a syscall. Like BPF_PROG_TYPE_KPROBE is used to process kprobes.
> I've considered and rejected:
> BPF_PROG_TYPE_USER - too generic
> BPF_PROG_TYPE_USERCTX - ambiguous with uprobes

USERCTX probably not a good choice. People can write a program without
context and put the ctx into a map and use it.

> BPF_PROG_TYPE_LOADER - ok-ish, but imo TYPE_SYSCALL is cleaner.

User can write a program to do more than loading although I am not sure
how useful it is compared to implementation in user space.

> Other suggestions?
> 
> The description of V1 set is still valid:
> ----
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