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Date:   Wed, 2 Jun 2021 16:20:28 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] sched: Change task_struct::state

On Wed, Jun 02, 2021 at 10:06:58AM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Jun 2, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Peter Zijlstra peterz@...radead.org wrote:

> > @@ -134,14 +134,14 @@ struct task_group;
> > 	do {							\
> > 		WARN_ON_ONCE(is_special_task_state(state_value));\
> > 		current->task_state_change = _THIS_IP_;		\
> > -		current->state = (state_value);			\
> > +		WRITE_ONCE(current->__state, (state_value));	\
> > 	} while (0)
> 
> Why not introduce set_task_state(p) and get_task_state(p) rather than sprinkle
> READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE() all over the kernel ?

set_task_state() is fundamentally unsound, there's very few sites that
_set_ state on anything other than current, and those sites are super
tricky, eg. ptrace.

Having get_task_state() would seem to suggest it's actually a sane thing
to do, it's not really. Inspecting remote state is full of races, and
some of that really wants cleaning up, but that's for another day.

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