netdev - Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off

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Message-ID: <6d8299e4-2707-7edf-ebe4-f5ca7b7ee8ca@metux.net>
Date:   Fri, 11 Jun 2021 12:58:48 +0200
From:   "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <lkml@...ux.net>
To:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>,
        David Hildenbrand <david@...hat.com>, Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...two.de>
Cc:     Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        ksummit@...ts.linux.dev, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-block@...r.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-mm@...ck.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-arch@...r.kernel.org, linux-api@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off

On 09.06.21 21:23, James Bottomley wrote:

> but the US is definitely moving
> to a regime that says once you're vaccinated it's pretty much over for

As far as I see (watching from the other side of the globe), for most
states it already is over, no matter whether somebody got a shot or not.
(actually, getting reports of people *with* the shot get increasing
trouble, eg. kept out of stores, schools, planes, ...).

FL and TX seem to be the most relaxed states in this regard.
Maybe ask DeStantis and Abbot whether they'd support such a conference
in their states, maybe they'd even open their cheque books ;-)

> you and I don't see a problem with taking advantage of that for hybrid
> style events.  However, even with the best will in the world, I can't
> see much of a way around the problem that remote people at hybrid
> events will always be at a disadvantage ... suggestions for improving
> this are always welcome.

Looking from a totally different angle, I believe the hybrid approach
could even be a benefit. For example, longer talks - IMHO - are easier
to do (and for the audience) when just recorded, so people can listen to
them any time (and as often one wants to). Spontanous questions right
after, I guess, are only helpful for a small minority that's already 
deep in that particular topic - in those cases I'd prefer a more 
personal conversation. Another scenario are expert working groups, where
people already involved into certain topic talk closely - IMHO something
where direct (group) calls are a good medium, and probably working
better outside the strict time frames of such an event.

Maybe it's good idea to jump back to square one and ask the question,
what people actually expect from and try to achieve from such an event,
before going into some actual planning. (I could only express my very
personal view, but that's probably far from being representative)

--mtx

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