netdev - Re: [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/8] bpf: Introduce BPF timers.

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Message-ID: <87sg17mril.fsf@toke.dk>
Date:   Thu, 24 Jun 2021 13:27:46 +0200
From:   Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
To:     Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
        davem@...emloft.net
Cc:     daniel@...earbox.net, andrii@...nel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        bpf@...r.kernel.org, kernel-team@...com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 bpf-next 0/8] bpf: Introduce BPF timers.

Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> writes:

> From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>
>
> The first request to support timers in bpf was made in 2013 before sys_bpf syscall
> was added. That use case was periodic sampling. It was address with attaching
> bpf programs to perf_events. Then during XDP development the timers were requested
> to do garbage collection and health checks. They were worked around by implementing
> timers in user space and triggering progs with BPF_PROG_RUN command.
> The user space timers and perf_event+bpf timers are not armed by the bpf program.
> They're done asynchronously vs program execution. The XDP program cannot send a
> packet and arm the timer at the same time. The tracing prog cannot record an
> event and arm the timer right away. This large class of use cases remained
> unaddressed. The jiffy based and hrtimer based timers are essential part of the
> kernel development and with this patch set the hrtimer based timers will be
> available to bpf programs.
>
> TLDR: bpf timers is a wrapper of hrtimers with all the extra safety added
> to make sure bpf progs cannot crash the kernel.
>
> v2->v3:
> The v2 approach attempted to bump bpf_prog refcnt when bpf_timer_start is
> called to make sure callback code doesn't disappear when timer is active and
> drop refcnt when timer cb is done. That led to a ton of race conditions between
> callback running and concurrent bpf_timer_init/start/cancel on another cpu,
> and concurrent bpf_map_update/delete_elem, and map destroy.
>
> Then v2.5 approach skipped prog refcnt altogether. Instead it remembered all
> timers that bpf prog armed in a link list and canceled them when prog refcnt
> went to zero. The race conditions disappeared, but timers in map-in-map could
> not be supported cleanly, since timers in inner maps have inner map's life time
> and don't match prog's life time.
>
> This v3 approach makes timers to be owned by maps. It allows timers in inner
> maps to be supported from the start. This apporach relies on "user refcnt"
> scheme used in prog_array that stores bpf programs for bpf_tail_call. The
> bpf_timer_start() increments prog refcnt, but unlike 1st approach the timer
> callback does decrement the refcnt. The ops->map_release_uref is
> responsible for cancelling the timers and dropping prog refcnt when user space
> reference to a map is dropped. That addressed all the races and simplified
> locking.

Great to see this! I missed v2, but the "owned by map + uref" approach
makes sense.

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Acked-by: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>