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Date:   Tue, 3 Aug 2021 08:55:56 -0700
From:   Richard Cochran <>
To:     Arnd Bergmann <>
Cc:     "Keller, Jacob E" <>,
        Nicolas Pitre <>,
        "Brandeburg, Jesse" <>,
        "Nguyen, Anthony L" <>,
        "David S. Miller" <>,
        Jakub Kicinski <>,
        Arnd Bergmann <>,
        Kurt Kanzenbach <>,
        "Saleem, Shiraz" <>,
        "Ertman, David M" <>,
        "" <>,
        "" <>,
        "" <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] ethernet/intel: fix PTP_1588_CLOCK

On Tue, Aug 03, 2021 at 08:59:02AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> It may well be a lost cause, but a build fix is not the time to nail down
> that decision. The fix I proposed (with the added MAY_USE_PTP_1588_CLOCK
> symbol) is only two extra lines and leaves everything else working for the
> moment.

Well, then we'll have TWO ugly and incomprehensible Kconfig hacks,
imply and MAY_USE.

Can't we fix this once and for all?

Seriously, "imply" has been nothing but a major PITA since day one,
and all to save 22 kb.  I can't think of another subsystem which
tolerates so much pain for so little gain.


> I would suggest we merge that first and then raise the question
> about whether to give up on tinyfication on the summit list, there are a few
> other things that have come up that would also benefit from trying less hard,
> but if we overdo this, we can get to the point of hurting even systems that are
> otherwise still well supported (64MB MIPS/ARMv5 SoCs, small boot partitions,
> etc.).
>         Arnd

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