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Date:   Fri, 27 Aug 2021 15:44:34 +0200
From:   Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To:     Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
        Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...il.com>,
        Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
        Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>,
        Alvin Sipraga <ALSI@...g-olufsen.dk>, kernel-team@...roid.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/2] driver core: fw_devlink: Add support for
 FWNODE_FLAG_BROKEN_PARENT

> fw_devlink=on/device links short circuits the probe() call of a
> consumer (in this case the PHY) and returns -EPROBE_DEFER if the
> supplier's (in this case switch) probe hasn't finished without an
> error. fw_devlink/device links effectively does the probe in graph
> topological order and there's a ton of good reasons to do it that way
> -- what's why fw_devlink=on was implemented.
> 
> In this specific case though, since the PHY depends on the parent
> device, if we fail the parent's probe realtek_smi_probe() because the
> PHYs failed to probe, we'll get into a catch-22/chicken-n-egg
> situation and the switch/PHYs will never probe.

So lets look at:

arch/arm/boot/dts/vf610-zii-dev-rev-b.dts

       mdio-mux {
                compatible = "mdio-mux-gpio";
                pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_mdio_mux>;
                pinctrl-names = "default";
                gpios = <&gpio0 8  GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH
                         &gpio0 9  GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH
                         &gpio0 24 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH
                         &gpio0 25 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
                mdio-parent-bus = <&mdio1>;
                #address-cells = <1>;
                #size-cells = <0>;


We have an MDIO multiplexor


                mdio_mux_1: mdio@1 {
                        reg = <1>;
                        #address-cells = <1>;
                        #size-cells = <0>;

                        switch0: switch@0 {
                                compatible = "marvell,mv88e6085";
                                pinctrl-0 = <&pinctrl_gpio_switch0>;
                                pinctrl-names = "default";
                                reg = <0>;
                                dsa,member = <0 0>;
                                interrupt-parent = <&gpio0>;
                                interrupts = <27 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_LOW>;

On the first bus, we have a Ethernet switch.

                                interrupt-controller;
                                #interrupt-cells = <2>;
                                eeprom-length = <512>;

                                ports {
                                        #address-cells = <1>;
                                        #size-cells = <0>;

                                        port@0 {
                                                reg = <0>;
                                                label = "lan0";
                                                phy-handle = <&switch0phy0>;
                                        };

The first port of that switch has a pointer to a PHY.

                               mdio {
                                        #address-cells = <1>;
                                        #size-cells = <0>;

That Ethernet switch also has an MDIO bus,

                                        switch0phy0: switch0phy0@0 {
                                                reg = <0>;

On that bus is the PHY.

                                                interrupt-parent = <&switch0>;
                                                interrupts = <0 IRQ_TYPE_LEVEL_HIGH>;

And that PHY has an interrupt. And that interrupt is provided by the switch.

Given your description, it sounds like this is also go to break.

vf610-zii-dev-rev-c.dts is the same pattern, and there are more
examples for mv88e6xxx.

It is a common pattern, e.g. the mips ar9331.dtsi follows it.

I've not yet looked at plain Ethernet drivers. This pattern could also
exist there. And i wonder about other complex structures, i2c bus
multiplexors, you can have interrupt controllers as i2c devices,
etc. So the general case could exist in other places.

I don't think we should be playing whack-a-mole by changing drivers as
we find they regress and break. We need a generic fix. I think the
solution is pretty clear. As you said the device depends on its
parent. DT is a tree, so it is easy to walk up the tree to detect this
relationship, and not fail the probe.

   Andrew

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