netdev - RE: [PATCH v2 1/2] mwifiex: Use non-posted PCI write when setting TX ring write pointer

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Message-ID: <e0a4e0adc56148039f853ccb083be53a@AcuMS.aculab.com>
Date:   Wed, 22 Sep 2021 15:54:24 +0000
From:   David Laight <David.Laight@...LAB.COM>
To:     'Pali Rohár' <pali@...nel.org>
CC:     'Jonas Dreßler' <verdre@...d.nl>,
        Amitkumar Karwar <amitkarwar@...il.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v2 1/2] mwifiex: Use non-posted PCI write when setting TX
 ring write pointer


From: Pali Rohár
> Sent: 22 September 2021 15:27
> 
> On Wednesday 22 September 2021 14:03:25 David Laight wrote:
> > From: Jonas Dreßler
> > > Sent: 14 September 2021 12:48
> > >
> > > On the 88W8897 card it's very important the TX ring write pointer is
> > > updated correctly to its new value before setting the TX ready
> > > interrupt, otherwise the firmware appears to crash (probably because
> > > it's trying to DMA-read from the wrong place). The issue is present in
> > > the latest firmware version 15.68.19.p21 of the pcie+usb card.
> > >
> > > Since PCI uses "posted writes" when writing to a register, it's not
> > > guaranteed that a write will happen immediately. That means the pointer
> > > might be outdated when setting the TX ready interrupt, leading to
> > > firmware crashes especially when ASPM L1 and L1 substates are enabled
> > > (because of the higher link latency, the write will probably take
> > > longer).
> > >
> > > So fix those firmware crashes by always using a non-posted write for
> > > this specific register write. We do that by simply reading back the
> > > register after writing it, just as a few other PCI drivers do.
> > >
> > > This fixes a bug where during rx/tx traffic and with ASPM L1 substates
> > > enabled (the enabled substates are platform dependent), the firmware
> > > crashes and eventually a command timeout appears in the logs.
> >
> > I think you need to change your terminology.
> > PCIe does have some non-posted write transactions - but I can't
> > remember when they are used.
> 
> In PCIe are all memory write requests as posted.
> 
> Non-posted writes in PCIe are used only for IO and config requests. But
> this is not case for proposed patch change as it access only card's
> memory space.
> 
> Technically this patch does not use non-posted memory write (as PCIe
> does not support / provide it), just adds something like a barrier and
> I'm not sure if it is really correct (you already wrote more details
> about it, so I will let it be).
> 
> I'm not sure what is the correct terminology, I do not know how this
> kind of write-followed-by-read "trick" is correctly called.

I think it is probably best to say:
   "flush the posted write when setting the TX ring write pointer".

The write can get posted in any/all of the following places:
1) The cpu store buffer.
2) The PCIe host bridge.
3) Any other PCIe bridges.
4) The PCIe slave logic in the target.
   There could be separate buffers for each BAR,
5) The actual target logic for that address block.
   The target (probably) will look a bit like an old fashioned cpu
   motherboard with the PCIe slave logic as the main bus master.

The readback forces all the posted write buffers be flushed.

In this case I suspect it is either flushing (5) or the extra
delay of the read TLP processing that 'fixes' the problem.

Note that depending on the exact code and host cpu the second
write may not need to wait for the response to the read TLP.
So the write, readback, write TLP may be back to back on the
actual PCIe link.

Although I don't have access to an actual PCIe monitor we
do have the ability to trace 'data' TLP into fpga memory
on one of our systems.
This is near real-time but they are slightly munged.
Watching the TLP can be illuminating!

	David

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