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Message-ID: <87a6ieqssc.fsf@toke.dk>
Date:   Mon, 08 Nov 2021 21:46:59 +0100
From:   Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
To:     Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
Cc:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com,
        davem@...emloft.net, ast@...nel.org, daniel@...earbox.net,
        shayagr@...zon.com, john.fastabend@...il.com, dsahern@...nel.org,
        brouer@...hat.com, echaudro@...hat.com, jasowang@...hat.com,
        alexander.duyck@...il.com, saeed@...nel.org,
        maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com, magnus.karlsson@...el.com,
        tirthendu.sarkar@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v17 bpf-next 12/23] bpf: add multi-buff support to the
 bpf_xdp_adjust_tail() API

Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org> writes:

>> Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org> writes:
>> 
>> >> On Thu,  4 Nov 2021 18:35:32 +0100 Lorenzo Bianconi wrote:
>> >> > This change adds support for tail growing and shrinking for XDP multi-buff.
>> >> > 
>> >> > When called on a multi-buffer packet with a grow request, it will always
>> >> > work on the last fragment of the packet. So the maximum grow size is the
>> >> > last fragments tailroom, i.e. no new buffer will be allocated.
>> >> > 
>> >> > When shrinking, it will work from the last fragment, all the way down to
>> >> > the base buffer depending on the shrinking size. It's important to mention
>> >> > that once you shrink down the fragment(s) are freed, so you can not grow
>> >> > again to the original size.
>> >> 
>> >> > +static int bpf_xdp_mb_increase_tail(struct xdp_buff *xdp, int offset)
>> >> > +{
>> >> > +	struct skb_shared_info *sinfo = xdp_get_shared_info_from_buff(xdp);
>> >> > +	skb_frag_t *frag = &sinfo->frags[sinfo->nr_frags - 1];
>> >> > +	int size, tailroom;
>> >> > +
>> >> > +	tailroom = xdp->frame_sz - skb_frag_size(frag) - skb_frag_off(frag);
>> >> 
>> >> I know I complained about this before but the assumption that we can
>> >> use all the space up to xdp->frame_sz makes me uneasy.
>> >> 
>> >> Drivers may not expect the idea that core may decide to extend the 
>> >> last frag.. I don't think the skb path would ever do this.
>> >> 
>> >> How do you feel about any of these options: 
>> >>  - dropping this part for now (return an error for increase)
>> >>  - making this an rxq flag or reading the "reserved frag size"
>> >>    from rxq (so that drivers explicitly opt-in)
>> >>  - adding a test that can be run on real NICs
>> >> ?
>> >
>> > I think this has been added to be symmetric with bpf_xdp_adjust_tail().
>> > I do think there is a real use-case for it so far so I am fine to just
>> > support the shrink part.
>> >
>> > @Eelco, Jesper, Toke: any comments on it?
>> 
>> Well, tail adjust is useful for things like encapsulations that need to
>> add a trailer. Don't see why that wouldn't be something people would
>> want to do for jumboframes as well?
>> 
>
> I agree this would be useful for protocols that add a trailer.
>
>> Not sure I get what the issue is with this either? But having a test
>> that can be run to validate this on hardware would be great in any case,
>> I suppose - we've been discussing more general "compliance tests" for
>> XDP before...
>
> what about option 2? We can add a frag_size field to rxq [0] that is set by
> the driver initializing the xdp_buff. frag_size set to 0 means we can use
> all the buffer.
>
> Regards,
> Lorenzo
>
> [0] pahole -C xdp_rxq_info vmlinux
> struct xdp_rxq_info {
> 	struct net_device *        dev;                  /*     0     8 */
> 	u32                        queue_index;          /*     8     4 */
> 	u32                        reg_state;            /*    12     4 */
> 	struct xdp_mem_info        mem;                  /*    16     8 */
> 	unsigned int               napi_id;              /*    24     4 */
>
> 	/* size: 64, cachelines: 1, members: 5 */
> 	/* padding: 36 */
> } __attribute__((__aligned__(64)));

Works for me :)

-Toke

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