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Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 11:22:00 +0100
From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@...hat.com>
Cc: Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>,
Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com>,
Zvi Effron <zeffron@...tgames.com>, brouer@...hat.com,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>,
bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
Shay Agroskin <shayagr@...zon.com>,
john fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>,
Eelco Chaudron <echaudro@...hat.com>,
Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>,
Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>,
Saeed Mahameed <saeed@...nel.org>,
Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com>,
Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>,
tirthendu.sarkar@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v21 bpf-next 18/23] libbpf: Add SEC name for xdp_mb
programs
>
>
> On 12/01/2022 23.04, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> > Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com> writes:
> >
> > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:47 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> > > > <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:21 AM Andrii Nakryiko
> > > > > <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:17 AM Alexei Starovoitov
> > > > > > <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:24 AM Andrii Nakryiko
> > > > > > > <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:18 AM Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 7:05 AM Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Introduce support for the following SEC entries for XDP multi-buff
> > > > > > > > > > > property:
> > > > > > > > > > > - SEC("xdp_mb/")
> > > > > > > > > > > - SEC("xdp_devmap_mb/")
> > > > > > > > > > > - SEC("xdp_cpumap_mb/")
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Libbpf seemed to went with .<suffix> rule (e.g., fentry.s for
> > > > > > > > > > sleepable, seems like we'll have kprobe.multi or something along
> > > > > > > > > > those lines as well), so let's stay consistent and call this "xdp_mb",
> > > > > > > > > > "xdp_devmap.mb", "xdp_cpumap.mb" (btw, is "mb" really all that
> > > > > > > > > > recognizable? would ".multibuf" be too verbose?). Also, why the "/"
> > > > > > > > > > part? Also it shouldn't be "sloppy" either. Neither expected attach
> > > > > > > > > > type should be optional. Also not sure SEC_ATTACHABLE is needed. So
> > > > > > > > > > at most it should be SEC_XDP_MB, probably.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ack, I fine with it. Something like:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("lsm.s/", LSM, BPF_LSM_MAC, SEC_ATTACH_BTF | SEC_SLEEPABLE, attach_lsm),
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("iter/", TRACING, BPF_TRACE_ITER, SEC_ATTACH_BTF, attach_iter),
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("syscall", SYSCALL, 0, SEC_SLEEPABLE),
> > > > > > > > > + SEC_DEF("xdp_devmap.multibuf", XDP, BPF_XDP_DEVMAP, 0),
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("xdp_devmap/", XDP, BPF_XDP_DEVMAP, SEC_ATTACHABLE),
> > > > > > > > > + SEC_DEF("xdp_cpumap.multibuf", XDP, BPF_XDP_CPUMAP, 0),
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("xdp_cpumap/", XDP, BPF_XDP_CPUMAP, SEC_ATTACHABLE),
> > > > > > > > > + SEC_DEF("xdp.multibuf", XDP, BPF_XDP, 0),
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > yep, but please use SEC_NONE instead of zero
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("xdp", XDP, BPF_XDP, SEC_ATTACHABLE_OPT | SEC_SLOPPY_PFX),
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("perf_event", PERF_EVENT, 0, SEC_NONE | SEC_SLOPPY_PFX),
> > > > > > > > > SEC_DEF("lwt_in", LWT_IN, 0, SEC_NONE | SEC_SLOPPY_PFX),
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Acked-by: Toke Hoiland-Jorgensen <toke@...hat.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Acked-by: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c | 8 ++++++++
> > > > > > > > > > > 1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c b/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c
> > > > > > > > > > > index 7f10dd501a52..c93f6afef96c 100644
> > > > > > > > > > > --- a/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c
> > > > > > > > > > > +++ b/tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -235,6 +235,8 @@ enum sec_def_flags {
> > > > > > > > > > > SEC_SLEEPABLE = 8,
> > > > > > > > > > > /* allow non-strict prefix matching */
> > > > > > > > > > > SEC_SLOPPY_PFX = 16,
> > > > > > > > > > > + /* BPF program support XDP multi-buff */
> > > > > > > > > > > + SEC_XDP_MB = 32,
> > > > > > > > > > > };
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > struct bpf_sec_def {
> > > > > > > > > > > @@ -6562,6 +6564,9 @@ static int libbpf_preload_prog(struct bpf_program *prog,
> > > > > > > > > > > if (def & SEC_SLEEPABLE)
> > > > > > > > > > > opts->prog_flags |= BPF_F_SLEEPABLE;
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > + if (prog->type == BPF_PROG_TYPE_XDP && (def & SEC_XDP_MB))
> > > > > > > > > > > + opts->prog_flags |= BPF_F_XDP_MB;
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'd say you don't even need SEC_XDP_MB flag at all, you can just check
> > > > > > > > > > that prog->sec_name is one of "xdp.mb", "xdp_devmap.mb" or
> > > > > > > > > > "xdp_cpumap.mb" and add the flag. SEC_XDP_MB doesn't seem generic
> > > > > > > > > > enough to warrant a flag.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ack, something like:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > + if (prog->type == BPF_PROG_TYPE_XDP &&
> > > > > > > > > + (!strcmp(prog->sec_name, "xdp_devmap.multibuf") ||
> > > > > > > > > + !strcmp(prog->sec_name, "xdp_cpumap.multibuf") ||
> > > > > > > > > + !strcmp(prog->sec_name, "xdp.multibuf")))
> > > > > > > > > + opts->prog_flags |= BPF_F_XDP_MB;
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > yep, can also simplify it a bit with strstr(prog->sec_name,
> > > > > > > > ".multibuf") instead of three strcmp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Maybe ".mb" ?
> > > > > > > ".multibuf" is too verbose.
> > > > > > > We're fine with ".s" for sleepable :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I had reservations about "mb" because the first and strong association
> > > > > > is "megabyte", not "multibuf". And it's not like anyone would have
> > > > > > tens of those programs in a single file so that ".multibuf" becomes
> > > > > > way too verbose. But I don't feel too strongly about this, if the
> > > > > > consensus is on ".mb".
> > > > >
> > > > > The rest of the patches are using _mb everywhere.
> > > > > I would keep libbpf consistent.
> > > >
> > > > Should the rest of the patches maybe use "multibuf" instead of "mb"? I've been
> > > > following this patch series closely and excitedly, and I keep having to remind
> > > > myself that "mb" is "multibuff" and not "megabyte". If I'm having to correct
> > > > myself while following the patch series, I'm wondering if future confusion is
> > > > inevitable?
> > > >
> > > > But, is it enough confusion to be worth updating many other patches? I'm not
> > > > sure.
> > > >
> > > > I agree consistency is more important than the specific term we're consistent
> > > > on.
> > >
> > > I would prefer to keep the "_mb" postfix, but naming is hard and I am
> > > polarized :)
> >
> > I would lean towards keeping _mb as well, but if it does have to be
> > changed why not _mbuf? At least that's not quite as verbose :)
>
> I dislike the "mb" abbreviation as I forget it stands for multi-buffer.
> I like the "mbuf" suggestion, even-though it conflicts with (Free)BSD mbufs
> (which is their SKB).
If we all agree, I can go over the series and substitute mb postfix with mbuf.
Any objections?
>
> I prefer/support the .<suffix> idea from Andrii.
> Which would then be ".mbuf" for my taste.
ack, I have already implemented it, we need to define just the naming
convention now.
Regards,
Lorenzo
>
> --Jesper
> p.s. I like the bikeshed red, meaning I don't feel too strongly about this.
>
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