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Message-ID: <20220120190155.717f2d52@thinkpad>
Date:   Thu, 20 Jan 2022 19:01:55 +0100
From:   Marek BehĂșn <kabel@...nel.org>
To:     Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@...gutronix.de>
Cc:     Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
        Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>,
        Holger Brunck <holger.brunck@...achienergy.com>,
        Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Russell King <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>,
        linux-phy@...ts.infradead.org, Vinod Koul <vkoul@...nel.org>,
        Kishon Vijay Abraham I <kishon@...com>, ore@...gutronix.de,
        alexandru.tachici@...log.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH devicetree v3] dt-bindings: phy: Add `tx-p2p-microvolt`
 property binding

On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 09:49:14 +0100
Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@...gutronix.de> wrote:

> On 19.01.2022 14:11:17, Marek BehĂșn wrote:
> > Common PHYs and network PCSes often have the possibility to specify
> > peak-to-peak voltage on the differential pair - the default voltage
> > sometimes needs to be changed for a particular board.
> > 
> > Add properties `tx-p2p-microvolt` and `tx-p2p-microvolt-names` for this
> > purpose. The second property is needed to specify the mode for the
> > corresponding voltage in the `tx-p2p-microvolt` property, if the voltage
> > is to be used only for speficic mode. More voltage-mode pairs can be
> > specified.
> > 
> > Example usage with only one voltage (it will be used for all supported
> > PHY modes, the `tx-p2p-microvolt-names` property is not needed in this
> > case):
> > 
> >   tx-p2p-microvolt = <915000>;
> > 
> > Example usage with voltages for multiple modes:
> > 
> >   tx-p2p-microvolt = <915000>, <1100000>, <1200000>;
> >   tx-p2p-microvolt-names = "2500base-x", "usb", "pcie";
> > 
> > Add these properties into a separate file phy/transmit-amplitude.yaml,
> > which should be referenced by any binding that uses it.  
> 
> If I understand your use-case correctly, you need different voltage p2p
> levels in the connection between the Ethernet MAC and the Ethernet
> switch or Ethernet-PHY?

This is a SerDes differential pair amplitude. So yes to your question,
if the MII interface uses differential pair, like sgmii, 10gbase-r, ...

> Some of the two wire Ethernet standards (10base-T1S, 10base-T1L,
> 100base-T1, 1000base-T1) defines several p2p voltage levels on the wire,
> i.e. between the PHYs. Alexandru has posed a series where you can
> specify the between-PHY voltage levels:
> 
> | https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211210110509.20970-8-alexandru.tachici@analog.com/

Copper ethernet is something different, so no conflict

> Can we make clear that your binding specifies the voltage level on the
> MII interface, in contrast Alexandru's binding?

The binding explicitly says "common PHY", not ethernet PHY. I don't
thing there will be any confusion. It can also be specified for USB3+
differential pairs, or PCIe differential pairs, or DisplayPort
differential pairs...

Marek

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