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Date:   Mon, 31 Jan 2022 09:36:44 -0800
From:   Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>
To:     Shung-Hsi Yu <shung-hsi.yu@...e.com>, <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
        <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>
CC:     Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: BTF compatibility issue across builds



On 1/27/22 7:10 AM, Shung-Hsi Yu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We recently run into module load failure related to split BTF on openSUSE
> Tumbleweed[1], which I believe is something that may also happen on other
> rolling distros.
> 
> The error looks like the follow (though failure is not limited to ipheth)
> 
>      BPF:[103111] STRUCT BPF:size=152 vlen=2 BPF: BPF:Invalid name BPF:
> 
>      failed to validate module [ipheth] BTF: -22
> 
> The error comes down to trying to load BTF of *kernel modules from a
> different build* than the runtime kernel (but the source is the same), where
> the base BTF of the two build is different.
> 
> While it may be too far stretched to call this a bug, solving this might
> make BTF adoption easier. I'd natively think that we could further split
> base BTF into two part to avoid this issue, where .BTF only contain exported
> types, and the other (still residing in vmlinux) holds the unexported types.

What is the exported types? The types used by export symbols?
This for sure will increase btf handling complexity.

> 
> Does that sound like something reasonable to work on?
> 
> 
> ## Root case (in case anyone is interested in a verbose version)
> 
> On openSUSE Tumbleweed there can be several builds of the same source. Since
> the source is the same, the binaries are simply replaced when a package with
> a larger build number is installed during upgrade.
> 
> In our case, a rebuild is triggered[2], and resulted in changes in base BTF.
> More precisely, the BTF_KIND_FUNC{,_PROTO} of i2c_smbus_check_pec(u8 cpec,
> struct i2c_msg *msg) and inet_lhash2_bucket_sk(struct inet_hashinfo *h,
> struct sock *sk) was added to the base BTF of 5.15.12-1.3. Those functions
> are previously missing in base BTF of 5.15.12-1.1.

As stated in [2] below, I think we should understand why rebuild is 
triggered. If the rebuild for vmlinux is triggered, why the modules 
cannot be rebuild at the same time?

> 
> The addition of entries in BTF type and string table caused extra offset of
> type IDs and string position in the base BTF, and as such the same type ID
> may refers to a totally different type, and as does name_off of types.
> 
> When users on build#1 (ie 5.15.12-1.1) installs build#3 (ie 5.15.12-1.3),
> and then tries to load kernel module, they will be loading build#3 module on
> build#1 kernel; and with base BTF of the two builds different, name_off of
> some types will end up pointing at invalid string, and the kernel bails out.
> 
> 
> Best,
> Shung-Hsi Yu
> 
> 1: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1194501
> 2: my guess is rebuild is trigger due to compiler toolchain update, but I
>     wasn't able to pin down exactly what changed
> 

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