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Message-ID: <61f850bdf1b23_8597208f8@john.notmuch>
Date:   Mon, 31 Jan 2022 13:12:29 -0800
From:   John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
To:     Maxim Mikityanskiy <maximmi@...dia.com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>
Cc:     bpf@...r.kernel.org, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Tariq Toukan <tariqt@...dia.com>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com>,
        Song Liu <songliubraving@...com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        KP Singh <kpsingh@...nel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Petar Penkov <ppenkov@...gle.com>,
        Lorenz Bauer <lmb@...udflare.com>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Hideaki YOSHIFUJI <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>,
        Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        Nathan Chancellor <nathan@...nel.org>,
        Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@...gle.com>,
        Joe Stringer <joe@...ium.io>,
        Florent Revest <revest@...omium.org>,
        linux-kselftest@...r.kernel.org,
        Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...e.dk>,
        Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@...il.com>,
        Florian Westphal <fw@...len.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/3] bpf: Add helpers to issue and check SYN
 cookies in XDP

Maxim Mikityanskiy wrote:
> On 2022-01-25 09:54, John Fastabend wrote:
> > Maxim Mikityanskiy wrote:
> >> The new helpers bpf_tcp_raw_{gen,check}_syncookie allow an XDP program
> >> to generate SYN cookies in response to TCP SYN packets and to check
> >> those cookies upon receiving the first ACK packet (the final packet of
> >> the TCP handshake).
> >>
> >> Unlike bpf_tcp_{gen,check}_syncookie these new helpers don't need a
> >> listening socket on the local machine, which allows to use them together
> >> with synproxy to accelerate SYN cookie generation.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Maxim Mikityanskiy <maximmi@...dia.com>
> >> Reviewed-by: Tariq Toukan <tariqt@...dia.com>
> >> ---
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >> +
> >> +BPF_CALL_4(bpf_tcp_raw_check_syncookie, void *, iph, u32, iph_len,
> >> +	   struct tcphdr *, th, u32, th_len)
> >> +{
> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES
> >> +	u32 cookie;
> >> +	int ret;
> >> +
> >> +	if (unlikely(th_len < sizeof(*th)))
> >> +		return -EINVAL;
> >> +
> >> +	if (!th->ack || th->rst || th->syn)
> >> +		return -EINVAL;
> >> +
> >> +	if (unlikely(iph_len < sizeof(struct iphdr)))
> >> +		return -EINVAL;
> >> +
> >> +	cookie = ntohl(th->ack_seq) - 1;
> >> +
> >> +	/* Both struct iphdr and struct ipv6hdr have the version field at the
> >> +	 * same offset so we can cast to the shorter header (struct iphdr).
> >> +	 */
> >> +	switch (((struct iphdr *)iph)->version) {
> >> +	case 4:
> > 
> > Did you consider just exposing __cookie_v4_check() and __cookie_v6_check()?
> 
> No, I didn't, I just implemented it consistently with 
> bpf_tcp_check_syncookie, but let's consider it.
> 
> I can't just pass a pointer from BPF without passing the size, so I 
> would need some wrappers around __cookie_v{4,6}_check anyway. The checks 
> for th_len and iph_len would have to stay in the helpers. The check for 
> TCP flags (ACK, !RST, !SYN) could be either in the helper or in BPF. The 
> switch would obviously be gone.

I'm not sure you would need the len checks in helper, they provide
some guarantees I guess, but the void * is just memory I don't see
any checks on its size. It could be the last byte of a value for
example?

> 
> The bottom line is that it would be the same code, but without the 
> switch, and repeated twice. What benefit do you see in this approach? 

The only benefit would be to shave some instructions off the program.
XDP is about performance so I figure we shouldn't be adding arbitrary
stuff here. OTOH you're already jumping into a helper so it might
not matter at all.

>  From my side, I only see the ability to drop one branch at the expense 
> of duplicating the code above the switch (th_len and iph_len checks).

Just not sure you need the checks either, can you just assume the user
gives good data?

> 
> > My code at least has already run the code above before it would ever call
> > this helper so all the other bits are duplicate.
> 
> Sorry, I didn't quite understand this part. What "your code" are you 
> referring to?

Just that the XDP code I maintain has a if ipv4 {...} else ipv6{...}
structure in it so could use a v4_check... and v6_check... then call
the correct version directly, removing the switch from the helper.

Do you think there could be a performance reason to drop out those
instructions or is it just hid by the hash itself. Also it seems
a bit annoying if user is calling multiple helpers and they keep
doing the same checks over and over.

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