netdev - Re: [PATCH 00/22] Don't use kmalloc() with GFP

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Message-ID: <YhOaTsWUKO0SWsh7@osiris>
Date:   Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:57:34 +0100
From:   Heiko Carstens <hca@...ux.ibm.com>
To:     Baoquan He <bhe@...hat.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/22] Don't use kmalloc() with GFP_DMA

On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:51:59AM +0800, Baoquan He wrote:
> Let's replace it with other ways. This is the first step towards
> removing dma-kmalloc support in kernel (Means that if everyting
> is going well, we can't use kmalloc(GFP_DMA) to allocate buffer in the
> future).
...
> 
> Next, plan to investigate how we should handle places as below. We
> firstly need figure out whether they really need buffer from ZONE_DMA.
> If yes, how to change them with other ways. This need help from
> maintainers, experts from sub-components and code contributors or anyone
> knowing them well. E.g s390 and crypyto, we need guidance and help.
> 
> 1) Kmalloc(GFP_DMA) in s390 platform, under arch/s390 and drivers/s390;

So, s390 partially requires GFP_DMA allocations for memory areas which
are required by the hardware to be below 2GB. There is not necessarily
a device associated when this is required. E.g. some legacy "diagnose"
calls require buffers to be below 2GB.

How should something like this be handled? I'd guess that the
dma_alloc API is not the right thing to use in such cases. Of course
we could say, let's waste memory and use full pages instead, however
I'm not sure this is a good idea.

s390 drivers could probably converted to dma_alloc API, even though
that would cause quite some code churn.

> For this first patch series, thanks to Hyeonggon for helping
> reviewing and great suggestions on patch improving. We will work
> together to continue the next steps of work.
> 
> Any comment, thought, or suggestoin is welcome and appreciated,
> including but not limited to:
> 1) whether we should remove dma-kmalloc support in kernel();

The question is: what would this buy us? As stated above I'd assume
this comes with quite some code churn, so there should be a good
reason to do this.

>From this cover letter I only get that there was a problem with kdump
on x86, and this has been fixed. So why this extra effort?

>     3) Drop support for allocating DMA memory from slab allocator
>     (as Christoph Hellwig said) and convert them to use DMA32
>     and see what happens

Can you please clarify what "convert to DMA32" means? I would assume
this does _not_ mean that passing GFP_DMA32 to slab allocator would
work then?

btw. there are actually two kmalloc allocations which pass GFP_DMA32;
I guess this is broken(?):

drivers/hid/intel-ish-hid/ishtp-fw-loader.c:    dma_buf = kmalloc(payload_max_size, GFP_KERNEL | GFP_DMA32);
drivers/media/test-drivers/vivid/vivid-osd.c:   dev->video_vbase = kzalloc(dev->video_buffer_size, GFP_KERNEL | GFP_DMA32);