netdev - Re: [PATCH net] net: vlan: allow vlan device MTU change follow real device from smaller to bigger

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Message-ID: <CANn89iLf2ira4XponYV91cbvcdK76ekU7fDW93fmuJ3iytFHcw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Mon, 21 Feb 2022 18:27:46 -0800
From:   Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>
To:     "Ziyang Xuan (William)" <william.xuanziyang@...wei.com>
Cc:     Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
        David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        Vasily Averin <vvs@...tuozzo.com>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net] net: vlan: allow vlan device MTU change follow real
 device from smaller to bigger

On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 6:06 PM Ziyang Xuan (William)
<william.xuanziyang@...wei.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:43:18AM -0800, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> >>
> >> Herbert, do you recall why only a decrease was taken into consideration ?
> >
> > Because we shouldn't override administrative settings of the MTU
> > on the vlan device, unless we have to because of an MTU reduction
> > on the underlying device.
> >
> > Yes this is not perfect if the admin never set an MTU to start with
> > but as we don't have a way of telling whether the admin has or has
> > not changed the MTU setting, the safest course of action is to do
> > nothing in that case.
> If the admin has changed the vlan device MTU smaller than the underlying
> device MTU firstly, then changed the underlying device MTU smaller than
> the vlan device MTU secondly. The admin's configuration has been overridden.
> Can we consider that the admin's configuration for the vlan device MTU has
> been invalid and disappeared after the second change? I think so.

The answer is no.

Herbert is saying:

ip link add link eth1 dev eth1.100 type vlan id 100
...
ip link set eth1.100 mtu 800
..
ip link set eth1 mtu 256
ip link set eth1 mtu 1500

-> we do not want eth1.100 mtu being set back to 1500, this might
break applications, depending on old kernel feature.
 Eventually, setting back to 800 seems ok.

If you want this new feature, we need to record in eth1.100 device
that no admin ever changed the mtu,
as Herbert suggested.

Then, it is okay to upgrade the vlan mtu (but still is a behavioral
change that _could_ break some scripts)

Thank you.