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Message-ID: <20220225153902.GA148875@MiWiFi-R3L-srv>
Date:   Fri, 25 Feb 2022 23:39:02 +0800
From:   'Baoquan He' <bhe@...hat.com>
To:     David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] dma-mapping: check dma_mask for streaming mapping
 allocs

On 02/24/22 at 02:27pm, David Laight wrote:
> From: Baoquan He
> > Sent: 24 February 2022 14:11
> ...
> > With my understanding, there are two kinds of DMA mapping, coherent
> > mapping (which is also persistent mapping), and streaming mapping. The
> > coherent mapping will be handled during driver init, and released during
> > driver de-init. While streaming mapping will be done when needed at any
> > time, and released after usage.
> 
> The lifetime has absolutely nothing to do with it.
> 
> It is all about how the DMA cycles (from the device) interact with
> (or more don't interact with) the cpu memory cache.
> 
> For coherent mapping the cpu and device can write to (different)
> words in the same cache line at the same time, and both will see
> both updates.
> On some systems this can only be achieved by making the memory
> uncached - which significantly slows down cpu access.
> 
> For non-coherent (streaming) mapping the cpu writes back and/or
> invalidates the data cache so that the dma read cycles from memory
> read the correct data and the cpu re-reads the cache line after
> the dma has completed.
> They are only really suitable for data buffers.

Thanks for valuable input, I agree the lifetime is not stuff we can rely
on to judge. But how do we explain dma_alloc_noncoherent() is not streaming
mapping? Then which kind of dma mapping is it?

I could miss something important to understand this which is obvious to
other people, I will make time to check.

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