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Message-Id: <YldUIipJvL/7tK4P@google.com> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 15:52:18 -0700 From: sdf@...gle.com To: Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@...com> Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@...il.com>, Networking <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org> Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next] bpf: move rcu lock management out of BPF_PROG_RUN routines On 04/13, Martin KaFai Lau wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 12:52:53PM -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 12:39 PM <sdf@...gle.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 04/13, Andrii Nakryiko wrote: > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 11:33 AM Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Commit 7d08c2c91171 ("bpf: Refactor BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY family of > macros > > > > > into functions") switched a bunch of BPF_PROG_RUN macros to inline > > > > > routines. This changed the semantic a bit. Due to arguments > expansion > > > > > of macros, it used to be: > > > > > > > > > > rcu_read_lock(); > > > > > array = rcu_dereference(cgrp->bpf.effective[atype]); > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Now, with with inline routines, we have: > > > > > array_rcu = rcu_dereference(cgrp->bpf.effective[atype]); > > > > > /* array_rcu can be kfree'd here */ > > > > > rcu_read_lock(); > > > > > array = rcu_dereference(array_rcu); > > > > > > > > > > > > So subtle difference, wow... > > > > > > > But this open-coding of rcu_read_lock() seems very unfortunate as > > > > well. Would making BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY back to a macro which only > does > > > > rcu lock/unlock and grabs effective array and then calls static > inline > > > > function be a viable solution? > > > > > > > #define BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY_CG_FLAGS(array_rcu, ctx, run_prog, > ret_flags) \ > > > > ({ > > > > int ret; > > > > > > > rcu_read_lock(); > > > > ret = > > > > __BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY_CG_FLAGS(rcu_dereference(array_rcu), ....); > > > > rcu_read_unlock(); > > > > ret; > > > > }) > > > > > > > > > > where __BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY_CG_FLAGS is what > > > > BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY_CG_FLAGS is today but with __rcu annotation > dropped > > > > (and no internal rcu stuff)? > > > > > > Yeah, that should work. But why do you think it's better to hide them? > > > I find those automatic rcu locks deep in the call stack a bit obscure > > > (when reasoning about sleepable vs non-sleepable contexts/bpf). > > > > > > I, as the caller, know that the effective array is rcu-managed (it > > > has __rcu annotation) and it seems natural for me to grab rcu lock > > > while work with it; I might grab it for some other things like cgroup > > > anyway. > > > > If you think that having this more explicitly is better, I'm fine with > > that as well. I thought a simpler invocation pattern would be good, > > given we call bpf_prog_run_array variants in quite a lot of places. So > > count me indifferent. I'm curious what others think. > Would it work if the bpf_prog_run_array_cg() directly takes the > 'struct cgroup *cgrp' argument instead of the array ? > bpf_prog_run_array_cg() should know what protection is needed > to get member from the cgrp ptr. The sk call path should be able > to provide a cgrp ptr. For current cgrp, pass NULL as the cgrp > pointer and then current will be used in bpf_prog_run_array_cg(). > A rcu_read_lock() is needed anyway to get the current's cgrp > and can be done together in bpf_prog_run_array_cg(). > That there are only two remaining bpf_prog_run_array() usages > from lirc and bpf_trace which are not too bad to have them > directly do rcu_read_lock on their own struct ? From Andrii's original commit message: I think BPF_PROG_RUN_ARRAY_CG would benefit from further refactoring to accept struct cgroup and enum bpf_attach_type instead of bpf_prog_array, fetching cgrp->bpf.effective[type] and RCU-dereferencing it internally. But that required including include/linux/cgroup-defs.h, which I wasn't sure is ok with everyone. I guess including cgroup-defs.h/bpf-cgroup-defs.h into bpf.h might still be somewhat problematic? But even if we pass the cgroup pointer, I'm assuming that this cgroup pointer is still rcu-managed, right? So the callers still have to rcu-lock. However, in most places we don't care and do "cgrp = sock_cgroup_ptr(&sk->sk_cgrp_data);" but seems like it depends on the fact that sockets can't (yet?) change their cgroup association and it's fine to not rcu-lock that cgroup. Seems fragile, but ok. It always stumbles me when I see: cgrp = sock_cgroup_ptr(&sk->sk_cgrp_data); bpf_prog_run_array_cg_flags(cgrp.bpf->effective[atype], ...) But then, with current, it becomes: rcu_read_lock(); cgrp = task_dfl_cgroup(current); bpf_prog_run_array_cg_flags(cgrp.bpf->effective[atype], ...) rcu_read_unlock(); Idk, I might be overthinking it. I'll try to see if including bpf-cgroup-defs.h and passing cgroup_bpf is workable.
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