netdev - Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/5] bpf: rstat: cgroup hierarchical stats

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Date:   Tue, 7 Jun 2022 01:24:54 +0530
From:   Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@...il.com>
To:     Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com>
Cc:     Michal Koutný <mkoutny@...e.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v1 0/5] bpf: rstat: cgroup hierarchical stats

On Tue, Jun 07, 2022 at 01:02:04AM IST, Yosry Ahmed wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2022 at 5:32 AM Michal Koutný <mkoutny@...e.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 03, 2022 at 12:47:19PM -0700, Yosry Ahmed <yosryahmed@...gle.com> wrote:
> > > In short, think of these bpf maps as equivalents to "struct
> > > memcg_vmstats" and "struct memcg_vmstats_percpu" in the memory
> > > controller. They are just containers to store the stats in, they do
> > > not have any subgraph structure and they have no use beyond storing
> > > percpu and total stats.
> >
> > Thanks for the explanation.
> >
> > > I run small microbenchmarks that are not worth posting, they compared
> > > the latency of bpf stats collection vs. in-kernel code that adds stats
> > > to struct memcg_vmstats[_percpu] and flushes them accordingly, the
> > > difference was marginal.
> >
> > OK, that's a reasonable comparison.
> >
> > > The main reason for this is to provide data in a similar fashion to
> > > cgroupfs, in text file per-cgroup. I will include this clearly in the
> > > next cover message.
> >
> > Thanks, it'd be great to have that use-case captured there.
> >
> > > AFAIK loading bpf programs requires a privileged user, so someone has
> > > to approve such a program. Am I missing something?
> >
> > A sysctl unprivileged_bpf_disabled somehow stuck in my head. But as I
> > wrote, this adds a way how to call cgroup_rstat_updated() directly, it's
> > not reserved for privilged users anyhow.
>
> I am not sure if kfuncs have different privilege requirements or if
> there is a way to mark a kfunc as privileged. Maybe someone with more
> bpf knowledge can help here. But I assume if unprivileged_bpf_disabled
> is not set then there is a certain amount of risk/trust that you are
> taking anyway?
>

It requires CAP_BPF or CAP_SYS_ADMIN, see verifier.c:add_subprog_or_kfunc.

> >
> > > bpf_iter_run_prog() is used to run bpf iterator programs, and it grabs
> > > rcu read lock before doing so. So AFAICT we are good on that front.
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification.
> >
> >
> > Michal

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Kartikeya