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Date:   Thu, 23 Jun 2022 10:26:46 -0700
From:   Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
To:     sascha hauer <sha@...gutronix.de>
Cc:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Frank Rowand <frowand.list@...il.com>,
        Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@...ux.intel.com>,
        Daniel Scally <djrscally@...il.com>,
        Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@...ux.intel.com>,
        Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@...ux.intel.com>,
        Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, peng fan <peng.fan@....com>,
        kevin hilman <khilman@...nel.org>,
        ulf hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
        len brown <len.brown@...el.com>, pavel machek <pavel@....cz>,
        joerg roedel <joro@...tes.org>, will deacon <will@...nel.org>,
        andrew lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        heiner kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
        russell king <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        "david s. miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        eric dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        jakub kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        paolo abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        linus walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
        hideaki yoshifuji <yoshfuji@...ux-ipv6.org>,
        david ahern <dsahern@...nel.org>, kernel-team@...roid.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
        iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org, kernel@...gutronix.de,
        devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] of: base: Avoid console probe delay when fw_devlink.strict=1

On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 3:05 AM sascha hauer <sha@...gutronix.de> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2022 at 01:03:43AM -0700, Saravana Kannan wrote:
> > Commit 71066545b48e ("driver core: Set fw_devlink.strict=1 by default")
> > enabled iommus and dmas dependency enforcement by default. On some
> > systems, this caused the console device's probe to get delayed until the
> > deferred_probe_timeout expires.
> >
> > We need consoles to work as soon as possible, so mark the console device
> > node with FWNODE_FLAG_BEST_EFFORT so that fw_delink knows not to delay
> > the probe of the console device for suppliers without drivers. The
> > driver can then make the decision on where it can probe without those
> > suppliers or defer its probe.
> >
> > Fixes: 71066545b48e ("driver core: Set fw_devlink.strict=1 by default")
> > Reported-by: Sascha Hauer <sha@...gutronix.de>
> > Reported-by: Peng Fan <peng.fan@....com>
> > Signed-off-by: Saravana Kannan <saravanak@...gle.com>
> > Tested-by: Peng Fan <peng.fan@....com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/of/base.c | 2 ++
> >  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/of/base.c b/drivers/of/base.c
> > index d4f98c8469ed..a19cd0c73644 100644
> > --- a/drivers/of/base.c
> > +++ b/drivers/of/base.c
> > @@ -1919,6 +1919,8 @@ void of_alias_scan(void * (*dt_alloc)(u64 size, u64 align))
> >                       of_property_read_string(of_aliases, "stdout", &name);
> >               if (name)
> >                       of_stdout = of_find_node_opts_by_path(name, &of_stdout_options);
> > +             if (of_stdout)
> > +                     of_stdout->fwnode.flags |= FWNODE_FLAG_BEST_EFFORT;
>
> The device given in the stdout-path property doesn't necessarily have to
> be consistent with the console= parameter. The former is usually
> statically set in the device trees contained in the kernel while the
> latter is dynamically set by the bootloader. So if you change the
> console uart in the bootloader then you'll still run into this trap.
>
> It's problematic to consult only the device tree for dependencies. I
> found several examples of drivers in the tree for which dma support
> is optional. They use it if they can, but continue without it when
> not available. "hwlock" is another property which consider several
> drivers as optional. Also consider SoCs in early upstreaming phases
> when the device tree is merged with "dmas" or "hwlock" properties,
> but the corresponding drivers are not yet upstreamed. It's not nice
> to defer probing of all these devices for a long time.
>
> I wonder if it wouldn't be a better approach to just probe all devices
> and record the device(node) they are waiting on. Then you know that you
> don't need to probe them again until the device they are waiting for
> is available.

That actually breaks things in a worse sense. There are cases where
the consumer driver is built in and the optional supplier driver is
loaded at boot. Without fw_devlink and the deferred probe timeout, we
end up probing the consumer with limited functionality. With the
current setup, sure we delay some probes a bit but at least everything
works with the right functionality. And you can reduce or remove the
delay if you want to optimize it.

-Saravana

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