netdev - Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] xdp: Add packet queueing and scheduling capabilities

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Message-ID: <YtRSOaCtujBfzHUS@pop-os.localdomain>
Date:   Sun, 17 Jul 2022 11:17:29 -0700
From:   Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>
To:     Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com>
Cc:     Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
        Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@...ux.dev>,
        Song Liu <song@...nel.org>, Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        KP Singh <kpsingh@...nel.org>, Hao Luo <haoluo@...gle.com>,
        Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
        Björn Töpel <bjorn@...nel.org>,
        Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@...el.com>,
        Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@...el.com>,
        Jonathan Lemon <jonathan.lemon@...il.com>,
        Mykola Lysenko <mykolal@...com>,
        Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@...il.com>,
        netdev@...r.kernel.org, bpf@...r.kernel.org,
        Freysteinn Alfredsson <freysteinn.alfredsson@....se>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/17] xdp: Add packet queueing and scheduling
 capabilities

On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 11:52:07PM +0200, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
> Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2022 at 4:14 AM Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@...hat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Packet forwarding is an important use case for XDP, which offers
> >> significant performance improvements compared to forwarding using the
> >> regular networking stack. However, XDP currently offers no mechanism to
> >> delay, queue or schedule packets, which limits the practical uses for
> >> XDP-based forwarding to those where the capacity of input and output links
> >> always match each other (i.e., no rate transitions or many-to-one
> >> forwarding). It also prevents an XDP-based router from doing any kind of
> >> traffic shaping or reordering to enforce policy.
> >>
> >> This series represents a first RFC of our attempt to remedy this lack. The
> >> code in these patches is functional, but needs additional testing and
> >> polishing before being considered for merging. I'm posting it here as an
> >> RFC to get some early feedback on the API and overall design of the
> >> feature.
> >>
> >> DESIGN
> >>
> >> The design consists of three components: A new map type for storing XDP
> >> frames, a new 'dequeue' program type that will run in the TX softirq to
> >> provide the stack with packets to transmit, and a set of helpers to dequeue
> >> packets from the map, optionally drop them, and to schedule an interface
> >> for transmission.
> >>
> >> The new map type is modelled on the PIFO data structure proposed in the
> >> literature[0][1]. It represents a priority queue where packets can be
> >> enqueued in any priority, but is always dequeued from the head. From the
> >> XDP side, the map is simply used as a target for the bpf_redirect_map()
> >> helper, where the target index is the desired priority.
> >
> > I have the same question I asked on the series from Cong:
> > Any considerations for existing carousel/edt-like models?
> 
> Well, the reason for the addition in patch 5 (continuously increasing
> priorities) is exactly to be able to implement EDT-like behaviour, where
> the priority is used as time units to clock out packets.

Are you sure? I seriouly doubt your patch can do this at all...

Since your patch relies on bpf_map_push_elem(), which has no room for
'key' hence you reuse 'flags' but you also reserve 4 bits there... How
could tstamp be packed with 4 reserved bits??

To answer Stanislav's question, this is how my code could handle EDT:

// BPF_CALL_3(bpf_skb_map_push, struct bpf_map *, map, struct sk_buff *, skb, u64, key)
skb->tstamp = XXX;
bpf_skb_map_push(map, skb, skb->tstamp);

(Please refer another reply from me for how to get the min when poping,
which is essentially just a popular interview coding problem.)

Actually, if we look into the in-kernel EDT implementation (net/sched/sch_etf.c),
it is also based on rbtree rather than PIFO. ;-)

Thanks.