netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next 3/6] net: dsa: add support for retrieving the interface mode

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Date:   Fri, 22 Jul 2022 16:19:05 +0200
From:   Marek Behún <kabel@...nel.org>
To:     "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>
Cc:     Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>, Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>,
        Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/6] net: dsa: add support for retrieving the
 interface mode

On Fri, 22 Jul 2022 14:23:18 +0100
"Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 02:59:36PM +0200, Marek Behún wrote:
> >   The 2.5GBASE-X PCS does not support Clause 37 Auto-Negotiation.
> >   Hence, the 1000BASE-X PCS is expected to have its Clause 37
> >   Auto-Negotiation functionality disabled so that the /C/ ordered set
> >   will not be transmitted. If a 2.5GBASE-X PCS receives /C/ ordered
> >   set, then undefined behavior may occur.
> >   ...  
> 
> The reason that's probably stated is because there hasn't been any
> standardisation of it, different implementations behave differently,
> so they can't define a standard behaviour without breaking what's
> already out there.

I think they are also considering clause 73 AN, which is supported with
1000base-KX (if I am not mistaken). Maybe the intention was to use
clause 73 with >1G speeds, and so they've forbid clause 37 on
2500base-x.