netdev - RE: [PATCH V2 vfio 03/11] vfio: Introduce DMA logging uAPIs

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Message-ID: <BN9PR11MB5276A9E38ED63B5EEB572B8D8C949@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
Date:   Tue, 26 Jul 2022 07:07:37 +0000
From:   "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@...el.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
CC:     Yishai Hadas <yishaih@...dia.com>,
        "alex.williamson@...hat.com" <alex.williamson@...hat.com>,
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        "kvm@...r.kernel.org" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "kuba@...nel.org" <kuba@...nel.org>,
        "Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@...cle.com>,
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        "cohuck@...hat.com" <cohuck@...hat.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH V2 vfio 03/11] vfio: Introduce DMA logging uAPIs

> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@...dia.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 10:33 PM
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 07:20:16AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> 
> > I got that point. But my question is slightly different.
> >
> > A practical flow would like below:
> >
> > 1) Qemu first requests to start dirty tracking in 4KB page size.
> >    Underlying trackers may start tracking in 4KB, 256KB, 2MB,
> >    etc. based on their own constraints.
> >
> > 2) Qemu then reads back dirty reports in a shared bitmap in
> >    4KB page size. All trackers must update dirty bitmap in 4KB
> >    granular regardless of the actual size each tracker selects.
> >
> > Is there a real usage where Qemu would want to attempt
> > different page sizes between above two steps?
> 
> If you multi-thread the tracker reads it will be efficient to populate
> a single bitmap and then copy that single bitmapt to the dirty
> transfer. In this case you want the page size conversion.
> 
> If qemu is just going to read sequentially then perhaps it doesn't.
> 
> But forcing a fixed page size just denies userspace this choice, and
> it doesn't make the kernel any simpler because the kernel always must
> have this code to adapt different page sizes to support the real iommu
> with huge pages/etc.
> 

OK, make sense.