netdev - Re: [PATCH net 1/2] dt: ar803x: Document disable-hibernation property

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Message-ID: <01021dde-106c-5660-ea96-a8b8fd89ad50@linaro.org>
Date:   Fri, 12 Aug 2022 15:36:43 +0300
From:   Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@...aro.org>
To:     "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net 1/2] dt: ar803x: Document disable-hibernation property

On 12/08/2022 15:30, Russell King (Oracle) wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 03:04:41PM +0300, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>> I did not propose a property to enable hibernation. The property must
>> describe hardware, so this piece is missing, regardless whether the
>> logic in the driver is "enable" or "disable".
>>
>> The hardware property for example is: "broken foo, so hibernation should
>> be disabled" or "engineer forgot to wire cables, so hibernation won't
>> work"...
> 
> From the problem description, the PHY itself isn't broken. The stmmac
> hardware doesn't reset properly when the clock from the PHY is stopped.

There is nothing like that in the property name or property description.
Again - DT is not for describing driver behavior or driver policy.

> That could hardly be described as "broken" - it's quite common for
> hardware specifications to state that clocks must be running for the
> hardware to operate correctly.
> 
> This is a matter of configuring the hardware to inter-operate correctly.
> Isn't that the whole purpose of DT?
> 
> So, nothing is broken. Nothing has forgotten to be wired. It's a matter
> of properly configuring the hardware. Just the same as selecting the
> correct interface mode to connect two devices together.

I just gave you two examples what could be written, don't need to stick
them. You can use some real one...

Best regards,
Krzysztof