Message-ID: <YvtL2iKiU2IMCBo3@TonyMac-Alibaba>
Date:   Tue, 16 Aug 2022 15:48:42 +0800
From:   Tony Lu <tonylu@...ux.alibaba.com>
To:     Alexandra Winter <wintera@...ux.ibm.com>
Cc:     Stephen Hemminger <stephen@...workplumber.org>,
        Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@...ux.ibm.com>, kgraul@...ux.ibm.com,
        wenjia@...ux.ibm.com, davem@...emloft.net, edumazet@...gle.com,
        kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-s390@...r.kernel.org, zmlcc@...ux.alibaba.com,
        hans@...ux.alibaba.com, zhiyuan2048@...ux.alibaba.com,
        herongguang@...ux.alibaba.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/1] net/smc: SMC for inter-VM communication

On Thu, Aug 04, 2022 at 11:27:35AM +0200, Alexandra Winter wrote:
> 
> 
> On 04.08.22 01:41, Stephen Hemminger wrote:
> > On Wed, 3 Aug 2022 16:27:54 -0400
> > Matthew Rosato <mjrosato@...ux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> On 7/20/22 1:00 PM, Tony Lu wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> # Background
> >>>
> >>> We (Alibaba Cloud) have already used SMC in cloud environment to
> >>> transparently accelerate TCP applications with ERDMA [1]. Nowadays,
> >>> there is a common scenario that deploy containers (which runtime is
> >>> based on lightweight virtual machine) on ECS (Elastic Compute Service),
> >>> and the containers may want to be scheduled on the same host in order to
> >>> get higher performance of network, such as AI, big data or other
> >>> scenarios that are sensitive with bandwidth and latency. Currently, the
> >>> performance of inter-VM is poor and CPU resource is wasted (see
> >>> #Benchmark virtio). This scenario has been discussed many times, but a
> >>> solution for a common scenario for applications is missing [2] [3] [4].
> >>>
> >>> # Design
> >>>
> >>> In inter-VM scenario, we use ivshmem (Inter-VM shared memory device)
> >>> which is modeled by QEMU [5]. With it, multiple VMs can access one
> >>> shared memory. This shared memory device is statically created by host
> >>> and shared to desired guests. The device exposes as a PCI BAR, and can
> >>> interrupt its peers (ivshmem-doorbell).
> >>>
> >>> In order to use ivshmem in SMC, we write a draft device driver as a
> >>> bridge between SMC and ivshmem PCI device. To make it easier, this
> >>> driver acts like a SMC-D device in order to fit in SMC without modifying
> >>> the code, which is named ivpci (see patch #1).
> >>>
> >>>    ┌───────────────────────────────────────┐
> >>>    │  ┌───────────────┐ ┌───────────────┐  │
> >>>    │  │      VM1      │ │      VM2      │  │
> >>>    │  │┌─────────────┐│ │┌─────────────┐│  │
> >>>    │  ││ Application ││ ││ Application ││  │
> >>>    │  │├─────────────┤│ │├─────────────┤│  │
> >>>    │  ││     SMC     ││ ││     SMC     ││  │
> >>>    │  │├─────────────┤│ │├─────────────┤│  │
> >>>    │  ││    ivpci    ││ ││    ivpci    ││  │
> >>>    │  └└─────────────┘┘ └└─────────────┘┘  │
> >>>    │        x  *               x  *        │
> >>>    │        x  ****************x* *        │
> >>>    │        x  xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx* *        │
> >>>    │        x  x                * *        │
> >>>    │  ┌───────────────┐ ┌───────────────┐  │
> >>>    │  │shared memories│ │ivshmem-server │  │
> >>>    │  └───────────────┘ └───────────────┘  │
> >>>    │                HOST A                 │
> >>>    └───────────────────────────────────────┘
> >>>     *********** Control flow (interrupt)
> >>>     xxxxxxxxxxx Data flow (memory access)
> >>>
> >>> Inside ivpci driver, it implements almost all the operations of SMC-D
> >>> device. It can be divided into two parts:
> >>>
> >>> - control flow, most of it is same with SMC-D, use ivshmem trigger
> >>>    interruptions in ivpci and process CDC flow.
> >>>
> >>> - data flow, the shared memory of each connection is one large region
> >>>    and divided into two part for local and remote RMB. Every writer
> >>>    syscall copies data to sndbuf and calls ISM's move_data() to move data
> >>>    to remote RMB in ivshmem and interrupt remote. And reader then
> >>>    receives interruption and check CDC message, consume data if cursor is
> >>>    updated.
> >>>
> >>> # Benchmark
> >>>
> >>> Current POC of ivpci is unstable and only works for single SMC
> >>> connection. Here is the brief data:
> >>>
> >>> Items         Latency (pingpong)    Throughput (64KB)
> >>> TCP (virtio)   19.3 us                3794.185 MBps
> >>> TCP (SR-IOV)   13.2 us                3948.792 MBps
> >>> SMC (ivshmem)   6.3 us               11900.269 MBps
> >>>
> >>> Test environments:
> >>>
> >>> - CPU Intel Xeon Platinum 8 core, mem 32 GiB
> >>> - NIC Mellanox CX4 with 2 VFs in two different guests
> >>> - using virsh to setup virtio-net + vhost
> >>> - using sockperf and single connection
> >>> - SMC + ivshmem throughput uses one-copy (userspace -> kernel copy)
> >>>    with intrusive modification of SMC (see patch #1), latency (pingpong)
> >>>    use two-copy (user -> kernel and move_data() copy, patch version).
> >>>
> >>> With the comparison, SMC with ivshmem gets 3-4x bandwidth and a half
> >>> latency.
> >>>
> >>> TCP + virtio is the most usage solution for guest, it gains lower
> >>> performance. Moreover, it consumes extra thread with full CPU core
> >>> occupied in host to transfer data, wastes more CPU resource. If the host
> >>> is very busy, the performance will be worse.
> >>>   
> >>
> >> Hi Tony,
> >>
> >> Quite interesting!  FWIW for s390x we are also looking at passthrough of 
> >> host ISM devices to enable SMC-D in QEMU guests:
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220606203325.110625-1-mjrosato@linux.ibm.com/
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/kvm/20220606203614.110928-1-mjrosato@linux.ibm.com/
> >>
> >> But seems to me an 'emulated ISM' of sorts could still be interesting 
> >> even on s390x e.g. for scenarios where host device passthrough is not 
> >> possible/desired.
> >>
> >> Out of curiosity I tried this ivpci module on s390x but the device won't 
> >> probe -- This is possibly an issue with the s390x PCI emulation layer in 
> >> QEMU, I'll have to look into that.
> >>
> >>> # Discussion
> >>>
> >>> This RFC and solution is still in early stage, so we want to come it up
> >>> as soon as possible and fully discuss with IBM and community. We have
> >>> some topics putting on the table:
> >>>
> >>> 1. SMC officially supports this scenario.
> >>>
> >>> SMC + ivshmem shows huge improvement when communicating inter VMs. SMC-D
> >>> and mocking ISM device might not be the official solution, maybe another
> >>> extension for SMC besides SMC-R and SMC-D. So we are wondering if SMC
> >>> would accept this idea to fix this scenario? Are there any other
> >>> possibilities?  
> >>
> >> I am curious about ivshmem and its current state though -- e.g. looking 
> >> around I see mention of v2 which you also referenced but don't see any 
> >> activity on it for a few years?  And as far as v1 ivshmem -- server "not 
> >> for production use", etc.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Matt
> >>
> >>>
> >>> 2. Implementation of SMC for inter-VM.
> >>>
> >>> SMC is used in container and cloud environment, maybe we can propose a
> >>> new device and new protocol if possible in these new scenarios to solve
> >>> this problem.
> >>>
> >>> 3. Standardize this new protocol and device.
> >>>
> >>> SMC-R has an open RFC 7609, so can this new device or protocol like
> >>> SMC-D can be standardized. There is a possible option that proposing a
> >>> new device model in QEMU + virtio ecosystem and SMC supports this
> >>> standard virtio device, like [6].
> >>>
> >>> If there are any problems, please point them out.
> >>>
> >>> Hope to hear from you, thank you.
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/879373/
> >>> [2] https://projectacrn.github.io/latest/tutorials/enable_ivshmem.html
> >>> [3] https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/2847562
> >>> [4] https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-00368622/document
> >>> [5] https://github.com/qemu/qemu/blob/master/docs/specs/ivshmem-spec.txt
> >>> [6] https://github.com/siemens/jailhouse/blob/master/Documentation/ivshmem-v2-specification.md
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Tony Lu <tonylu@...ux.alibaba.com>  
> > 
> > 
> > Also looks a lot like existing VSOCK which has transports for Virtio, HyperV and VMWare already.
> 
> To have it documented in this thread:
> As Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@...ux.ibm.com> mentioned in
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/Yt9Xfv0bN0AGMdGP@TonyMac-Alibaba/t/#mcfaa50f7142f923d2b570dc19b70c73ceddc1270
> we are working on some patches to cleanup the interface between the ism device driver and the SMC-D protocol
> layer. They may simplify a project like the one described in this RFC. Stay tuned.

Thanks, I'll keep watching.

Tony Lu

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