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Date:   Tue, 23 Aug 2022 12:50:33 +0200
From:   Kurt Kanzenbach <kurt@...utronix.de>
To:     Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@....com>
Cc:     "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
        Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
        Michal Kubecek <mkubecek@...e.cz>,
        Claudiu Manoil <claudiu.manoil@....com>,
        Vinicius Costa Gomes <vinicius.gomes@...el.com>,
        Xiaoliang Yang <xiaoliang.yang_1@....com>,
        Rui Sousa <rui.sousa@....com>,
        Ferenc Fejes <ferenc.fejes@...csson.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH net-next 0/7] 802.1Q Frame Preemption and 802.3 MAC
 Merge support via ethtool

On Fri Aug 19 2022, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> Hi Kurt,
>
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 10:16:20AM +0200, Kurt Kanzenbach wrote:
>> On Wed Aug 17 2022, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
>> > Vinicius' progress on upstreaming frame preemption support for Intel I226
>> > seemed to stall, so I decided to give it a go using my own view as well.
>> > https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/netdevbpf/cover/20220520011538.1098888-1-vinicius.gomes@intel.com/
>> 
>> Great to see progress on FPE :-).
>
> Let's hope it lasts ;)
>
>> > - Finally, the hardware I'm working with (here, the test vehicle is the
>> >   NXP ENETC from LS1028A, although I have patches for the Felix switch
>> >   as well, but those need a bit of a revolution in the driver to go in
>> >   first). This hardware is not without its flaws, but at least allows me
>> >   to concentrate on the UAPI portions for this series.
>> >
>> > I also have a kselftest written, but it's for the Felix switch (covers
>> > forwarding latency) and so it's not included here.
>> 
>> What kind of selftest did you implement? So far I've been doing this:
>> Using a cyclic real time application to create high priority frames and
>> running iperf3 in parallel to simulate low priority traffic
>> constantly. Afterwards, checking the NIC statistics for fragments and so
>> on. Also checking the latency of the RT frames with FPE on/off.
>> 
>> BTW, if you guys need help with testing of patches, i do have access to
>> i225 and stmmacs which both support FPE. Also the Hirschmann switches
>> should support it.
>
> Blah, I didn't want to spoil the surprise just yet. I am orchestrating 2
> isochron senders at specific times, one of PT traffic and one of ET.
>
> There are actually 2 variants of this: one is for endpoint FP and the
> other is for bridge FP. I only had time to convert the bridge FP to
> kselftest format; not the endpoint one (for enetc).
>
> In the endpoint case, interference is created on the sender interface.
> I compare HW TX timestamps to the expected TX times to calculate how
> long it took until PT was preempted. I repeat the test millions of times
> until I can plot the latencies having the PT <-> ET base time offset on
> the X axis. It looks very cool.
>
> The bridge case is similar, except for the fact that interference is
> created on a bridge port going to a common receiver of 2 isochron
> senders. What I plot is the path delay, and again, this shows actual
> preemption times with a nanosecond resolution.

That makes a lot of sense and this kind of test scenario should work for
other endpoints implementations such as igc and stmmac too.

Thanks,
Kurt

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