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Message-ID: <87wn9q35tp.fsf_-_@kernel.org> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2022 11:20:18 +0300 From: Kalle Valo <kvalo@...nel.org> To: Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org> Cc: Alvin Šipraga <ALSI@...g-olufsen.dk>, Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@...ainline.org>, Hector Martin <marcan@...can.st>, "~postmarketos\/upstreaming\@lists.sr.ht" <~postmarketos/upstreaming@...ts.sr.ht>, "martin.botka\@somainline.org" <martin.botka@...ainline.org>, "angelogioacchino.delregno\@somainline.org" <angelogioacchino.delregno@...ainline.org>, "marijn.suijten\@somainline.org" <marijn.suijten@...ainline.org>, "jamipkettunen\@somainline.org" <jamipkettunen@...ainline.org>, Arend van Spriel <aspriel@...il.com>, Franky Lin <franky.lin@...adcom.com>, Hante Meuleman <hante.meuleman@...adcom.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, Marek Vasut <marex@...x.de>, "Zhao\, Jiaqing" <jiaqing.zhao@...el.com>, "Russell King \(Oracle\)" <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>, Soon Tak Lee <soontak.lee@...ress.com>, "linux-wireless\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>, "brcm80211-dev-list.pdl\@broadcom.com" <brcm80211-dev-list.pdl@...adcom.com>, "SHA-cyfmac-dev-list\@infineon.com" <SHA-cyfmac-dev-list@...ineon.com>, "netdev\@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, "linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org> Subject: Stockholm syndrome with Linux wireless? (changing the subject as this has nothing to do with brcmfmac) Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org> writes: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 3:31 PM Alvin Šipraga <ALSI@...g-olufsen.dk> wrote: > >> I would also point out that the BCM4359 is equivalent to the >> CYW88359/CYW89359 chipset, which we are using in some of our >> products. Note that this is a Cypress chipset (identifiable by the >> Version: ... (... CY) tag in the version string). But the FW Konrad is >> linking appears to be for a Broadcom chipset. > > This just makes me think about Peter Robinsons seminar at > LPC last week... > "All types of wireless in Linux are terrible and why the vendors > should feel bad" > https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1278/attachments/1120/2153/wireless-issues.pdf Thanks, this was a good read! I'm always interested about user and downstream feedback, both good and bad :) But I didn't get the Stockholm syndrome comment in the end, what does he mean with that? BTW we have a wireless workshop in netdevconf 0x16, it would be great to have there a this kind of session discussing user pain points: https://netdevconf.info/0x16/session.html?Wireless-Workshop -- https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-wireless/list/ https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/developers/documentation/submittingpatches
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