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Message-ID: <55c7744b-8a2c-e2b2-6c3-c2fa7ab978cc@linutronix.de>
Date:   Thu, 24 Nov 2022 15:00:37 +0100 (CET)
From:   Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@...utronix.de>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
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        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...nel.org>,
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        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
        Jacob Keller <jacob.e.keller@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V3 00/17] timers: Provide timer_shutdown[_sync]()

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022, Thomas Gleixner wrote:

> This is the third version of the timer shutdown work. The second version
> can be found here:
> 
>   https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221122171312.191765396@linutronix.de
> 
> Tearing down timers can be tedious when there are circular dependencies to
> other things which need to be torn down. A prime example is timer and
> workqueue where the timer schedules work and the work arms the timer.
> 
> Steven and the Google Chromebook team ran into such an issue in the
> Bluetooth HCI code.
> 
> Steven suggested to create a new function del_timer_free() which marks the
> timer as shutdown. Rearm attempts of shutdown timers are discarded and he
> wanted to emit a warning for that case:
> 
>    https://lore.kernel.org/all/20220407161745.7d6754b3@gandalf.local.home
> 
> This resulted in a lengthy discussion and suggestions how this should be
> implemented. The patch series went through several iterations and during
> the review of the last version it turned out that this approach is
> suboptimal:
> 
>    https://lore.kernel.org/all/20221110064101.429013735@goodmis.org
> 
> The warning is not really helpful because it's entirely unclear how it
> should be acted upon. The only way to address such a case is to add 'if
> (in_shutdown)' conditionals all over the place. This is error prone and in
> most cases of teardown like the HCI one which started this discussion not
> required all.
> 
> What needs to prevented is that pending work which is drained via
> destroy_workqueue() does not rearm the previously shutdown timer. Nothing
> in that shutdown sequence relies on the timer being functional.
> 
> The conclusion was that the semantics of timer_shutdown_sync() should be:
> 
>     - timer is not enqueued
>     - timer callback is not running
>     - timer cannot be rearmed
> 
> Preventing the rearming of shutdown timers is done by discarding rearm
> attempts silently.
> 
> As Steven is short of cycles, I made some spare cycles available and
> reworked the patch series to follow the new semantics and plugged the races
> which were discovered during review.
> 
> The patches have been split up into small pieces to make review easier and
> I took the liberty to throw a bunch of overdue cleanups into the picture
> instead of proliferating the existing state further.
> 
> The last patch in the series addresses the HCI teardown issue for real.
> 
> The series is also available from git:
> 
>    git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tglx/devel.git timers
> 

With fix of the last NITs:

Reviewed-by: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@...utronix.de>

Thanks,
	Anna-Maria