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Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2022 01:15:18 +0800
From: Tony Lu <tonylu@...ux.alibaba.com>
To: Alexandra Winter <wintera@...ux.ibm.com>
Cc: Jan Karcher <jaka@...ux.ibm.com>,
David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
linux-s390@...r.kernel.org, Heiko Carstens <hca@...ux.ibm.com>,
Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@...ux.ibm.com>,
Thorsten Winkler <twinkler@...ux.ibm.com>,
Stefan Raspl <raspl@...ux.ibm.com>,
Karsten Graul <kgraul@...ux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next] net/smc: Unbind smc control from tcp control
On Thu, Nov 24, 2022 at 02:00:35PM +0100, Alexandra Winter wrote:
>
>
> On 23.11.22 12:25, Tony Lu wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 12:19:19PM +0100, Jan Karcher wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 23/11/2022 12:13, Tony Lu wrote:
> >>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 11:58:30AM +0100, Jan Karcher wrote:
> >>>> In the past SMC used the values of tcp_{w|r}mem to create the send
> >>>> buffer and RMB. We now have our own sysctl knobs to tune them without
> >>>> influencing the TCP default.
> >>>>
> >>>> This patch removes the dependency on the TCP control by providing our
> >>>> own initial values which aim for a low memory footprint.
> >>>
> >>> +1, before introducing sysctl knobs of SMC, we were going to get rid of
> >>> TCP and have SMC own values. Now this does it, So I very much agree with
> >>> this.
> >>>
> Iiuc you are changing the default values in this a patch and your other patch:
> Default values for real_buf for send and receive:
>
> before 0227f058aa29 ("net/smc: Unbind r/w buffer size from clcsock and make them tunable")
> real_buf=net.ipv4.tcp_{w|r}mem[1]/2 send: 8k recv: 64k
>
> after 0227f058aa29 ("net/smc: Unbind r/w buffer size from clcsock and make them tunable")
> real_buf=net.ipv4.tcp_{w|r}mem[1] send: 16k (16*1024) recv: 128k (131072)
>
> after net/smc: Fix expected buffersizes and sync logic
> real_buf=net.ipv4.tcp_{w|r}mem[1] send: 16k (16*1024) recv: 128k (131072)
>
> after net/smc: Unbind smc control from tcp control
> real_buf=SMC_*BUF_INIT_SIZE send: 16k (16384) recv: 64k (65536)
>
> If my understanding is correct, then I nack this.
> Defaults should be restored to the values before 0227f058aa29.
> Otherwise users will notice a change in memory usage that needs to
> be avoided or announced more explicitely. (and don't change them twice)
The logic of buffer size are changed indeed. I very much agree that do
not break the user space. I am wondering that the values of user-defined
configurations should be the ABI/API compatibilities.
Actually before the patch of adding sysctls of buffers, the values of
buffer size is bind to tcp_{w|r}mem[1] tightly. The people who changed
the value of tcp_{w|r}mem[1] may break the convention of SMC by
accident.
After getting rid of tcp_{w|r}mem[1], SMC have its own sysctl for
buffer size. I do think this a really good chance for us to determined
the reasonable values of buffers and document them in a place that
people are easy to learn, the logic of {set|get}sockopt in SMC are
different from socket manual. What do you think?
Cheers,
Tony Lu
>
> >>>>
> >>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Karcher <jaka@...ux.ibm.com>
> >>>> Reviewed-by: Wenjia Zhang <wenjia@...ux.ibm.com>
> >>>> ---
> >>>> Documentation/networking/smc-sysctl.rst | 4 ++--
> >>>> net/smc/smc_core.h | 6 ++++--
> >>>> net/smc/smc_sysctl.c | 10 ++++++----
> >>>> 3 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> >>>>
> >>>> diff --git a/Documentation/networking/smc-sysctl.rst b/Documentation/networking/smc-sysctl.rst
> >>>> index 6d8acdbe9be1..a1c634d3690a 100644
> >>>> --- a/Documentation/networking/smc-sysctl.rst
> >>>> +++ b/Documentation/networking/smc-sysctl.rst
> >>>> @@ -44,7 +44,7 @@ smcr_testlink_time - INTEGER
> >>>> wmem - INTEGER
> >>>> Initial size of send buffer used by SMC sockets.
> >>>> - The default value inherits from net.ipv4.tcp_wmem[1].
> >>>> + The default value aims for a small memory footprint and is set to 16KiB.
> >>>> The minimum value is 16KiB and there is no hard limit for max value, but
> >>>> only allowed 512KiB for SMC-R and 1MiB for SMC-D.
> >>>> @@ -53,7 +53,7 @@ wmem - INTEGER
> >>>> rmem - INTEGER
> >>>> Initial size of receive buffer (RMB) used by SMC sockets.
> >>>> - The default value inherits from net.ipv4.tcp_rmem[1].
> >>>> + The default value aims for a small memory footprint and is set to 64KiB.
> >>>> The minimum value is 16KiB and there is no hard limit for max value, but
> >>>> only allowed 512KiB for SMC-R and 1MiB for SMC-D.
> >>>> diff --git a/net/smc/smc_core.h b/net/smc/smc_core.h
> >>>> index 285f9bd8e232..67c3937f341d 100644
> >>>> --- a/net/smc/smc_core.h
> >>>> +++ b/net/smc/smc_core.h
> >>>> @@ -206,8 +206,10 @@ struct smc_rtoken { /* address/key of remote RMB */
> >>>> u32 rkey;
> >>>> };
> >>>> -#define SMC_BUF_MIN_SIZE 16384 /* minimum size of an RMB */
> >>>> -#define SMC_RMBE_SIZES 16 /* number of distinct RMBE sizes */
> >>>> +#define SMC_SNDBUF_INIT_SIZE 16384 /* initial size of send buffer */
> >>>> +#define SMC_RCVBUF_INIT_SIZE 65536 /* initial size of receive buffer */
> >>>> +#define SMC_BUF_MIN_SIZE 16384 /* minimum size of an RMB */
> >>>> +#define SMC_RMBE_SIZES 16 /* number of distinct RMBE sizes */
> >>>> /* theoretically, the RFC states that largest size would be 512K,
> >>>> * i.e. compressed 5 and thus 6 sizes (0..5), despite
> >>>> * struct smc_clc_msg_accept_confirm.rmbe_size being a 4 bit value (0..15)
> >>>> diff --git a/net/smc/smc_sysctl.c b/net/smc/smc_sysctl.c
> >>>> index b6f79fabb9d3..a63aa79d4856 100644
> >>>> --- a/net/smc/smc_sysctl.c
> >>>> +++ b/net/smc/smc_sysctl.c
> >>>> @@ -19,8 +19,10 @@
> >>>> #include "smc_llc.h"
> >>>> #include "smc_sysctl.h"
> >>>> -static int min_sndbuf = SMC_BUF_MIN_SIZE;
> >>>> -static int min_rcvbuf = SMC_BUF_MIN_SIZE;
> >>>> +static int initial_sndbuf = SMC_SNDBUF_INIT_SIZE;
> >>>> +static int initial_rcvbuf = SMC_RCVBUF_INIT_SIZE;
> >>>> +static int min_sndbuf = SMC_BUF_MIN_SIZE;
> >>>> +static int min_rcvbuf = SMC_BUF_MIN_SIZE;
> Broken formatting
> >>>> static struct ctl_table smc_table[] = {
> >>>> {
> >>>> @@ -88,8 +90,8 @@ int __net_init smc_sysctl_net_init(struct net *net)
> >>>> net->smc.sysctl_autocorking_size = SMC_AUTOCORKING_DEFAULT_SIZE;
> >>>> net->smc.sysctl_smcr_buf_type = SMCR_PHYS_CONT_BUFS;
> >>>> net->smc.sysctl_smcr_testlink_time = SMC_LLC_TESTLINK_DEFAULT_TIME;
> >>>> - WRITE_ONCE(net->smc.sysctl_wmem, READ_ONCE(net->ipv4.sysctl_tcp_wmem[1]));
> >>>> - WRITE_ONCE(net->smc.sysctl_rmem, READ_ONCE(net->ipv4.sysctl_tcp_rmem[1]));
> >>>> + WRITE_ONCE(net->smc.sysctl_wmem, initial_sndbuf);
> >>>> + WRITE_ONCE(net->smc.sysctl_rmem, initial_rcvbuf);
> >>>
> >>> Maybe we can use SMC_{SND|RCV}BUF_INIT_SIZE macro directly, instead of
> >>> new variables.
> >>
> >> The reason i created the new variables is that min_{snd|rcv}buf also have
> >> their own variables. I know it is not needed but thought it was cleaner.
> >> If you have a strong opinion on using the value directly i can change it.
> >> Please let me know if you want it changed.
> >
> > Yep, it's okay for me to use variables or macros. Just let it be.
> I think it's better coding style to use the macros instead of unneccessary variables.
> At least the variables could be defined as const.
> >
> > Reviewed-by: Tony Lu <tonylu@...ux.alibaba.com>
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tony Lu
> >
> >>
> >> - Jan
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> Tony Lu
> >>>
> >>>> return 0;
> >>>> --
> >>>> 2.34.1
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