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Message-ID: <5836b464-290e-203f-00f2-fc6632c9f570@csgroup.eu>
Date:   Mon, 9 Jan 2023 08:15:12 +0000
From:   Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu>
To:     Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>,
        "tong@...ragraf.org" <tong@...ragraf.org>,
        "bpf@...r.kernel.org" <bpf@...r.kernel.org>,
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        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.or>,
        "loongarch@...ts.linux.dev" <loongarch@...ts.linux.dev>,
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        "linux-s390@...r.kernel.org" <linux-s390@...r.kernel.org>,
        "sparclinux@...r.kernel.org" <sparclinux@...r.kernel.org>
CC:     Hao Luo <haoluo@...gle.com>,
        John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>,
        Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>,
        Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>,
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        Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@...ux.dev>,
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        "mpe@...erman.id.au" <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Subject: Re: [bpf-next v2] bpf: drop deprecated bpf_jit_enable == 2



Le 06/01/2023 à 16:37, Daniel Borkmann a écrit :
> On 1/5/23 6:53 PM, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>> Le 05/01/2023 à 04:06, tong@...ragraf.org a écrit :
>>> From: Tonghao Zhang <tong@...ragraf.org>
>>>
>>> The x86_64 can't dump the valid insn in this way. A test BPF prog
>>> which include subprog:
>>>
>>> $ llvm-objdump -d subprog.o
>>> Disassembly of section .text:
>>> 0000000000000000 <subprog>:
>>>          0:       18 01 00 00 73 75 62 70 00 00 00 00 72 6f 67 00 r1 
>>> = 29114459903653235 ll
>>>          2:       7b 1a f8 ff 00 00 00 00 *(u64 *)(r10 - 8) = r1
>>>          3:       bf a1 00 00 00 00 00 00 r1 = r10
>>>          4:       07 01 00 00 f8 ff ff ff r1 += -8
>>>          5:       b7 02 00 00 08 00 00 00 r2 = 8
>>>          6:       85 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 call 6
>>>          7:       95 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 exit
>>> Disassembly of section raw_tp/sys_enter:
>>> 0000000000000000 <entry>:
>>>          0:       85 10 00 00 ff ff ff ff call -1
>>>          1:       b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 r0 = 0
>>>          2:       95 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 exit
>>>
>>> kernel print message:
>>> [  580.775387] flen=8 proglen=51 pass=3 image=ffffffffa000c20c 
>>> from=kprobe-load pid=1643
>>> [  580.777236] JIT code: 00000000: cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc 
>>> cc cc cc cc cc
>>> [  580.779037] JIT code: 00000010: cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc 
>>> cc cc cc cc cc
>>> [  580.780767] JIT code: 00000020: cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc 
>>> cc cc cc cc cc
>>> [  580.782568] JIT code: 00000030: cc cc cc
>>>
>>> $ bpf_jit_disasm
>>> 51 bytes emitted from JIT compiler (pass:3, flen:8)
>>> ffffffffa000c20c + <x>:
>>>      0:   int3
>>>      1:   int3
>>>      2:   int3
>>>      3:   int3
>>>      4:   int3
>>>      5:   int3
>>>      ...
>>>
>>> Until bpf_jit_binary_pack_finalize is invoked, we copy rw_header to 
>>> header
>>> and then image/insn is valid. BTW, we can use the "bpftool prog dump" 
>>> JITed instructions.
>>
>> NACK.
>>
>> Because the feature is buggy on x86_64, you remove it for all
>> architectures ?
>>
>> On powerpc bpf_jit_enable == 2 works and is very usefull.
>>
>> Last time I tried to use bpftool on powerpc/32 it didn't work. I don't
>> remember the details, I think it was an issue with endianess. Maybe it
>> is fixed now, but it needs to be verified.
>>
>> So please, before removing a working and usefull feature, make sure
>> there is an alternative available to it for all architectures in all
>> configurations.
>>
>> Also, I don't think bpftool is usable to dump kernel BPF selftests.
>> That's vital when a selftest fails if you want to have a chance to
>> understand why it fails.
> 
> If this is actively used by JIT developers and considered useful, I'd be
> ok to leave it for the time being. Overall goal is to reach feature parity
> among (at least major arch) JITs and not just have most functionality only
> available on x86-64 JIT. Could you however check what is not working with
> bpftool on powerpc/32? Perhaps it's not too much effort to just fix it,
> but details would be useful otherwise 'it didn't work' is too fuzzy.

Sure I will try to test bpftool again in the coming days.

Previous discussion about that subject is here: 
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-riscv/patch/20210415093250.3391257-1-Jianlin.Lv@arm.com/#24176847


> 
> Also, with regards to the last statement that bpftool is not usable to
> dump kernel BPF selftests. Could you elaborate some more? I haven't used
> bpf_jit_enable == 2 in a long time and for debugging always relied on
> bpftool to dump xlated insns or JIT. Or do you mean by BPF selftests
> the test_bpf.ko module? Given it has a big batch with kernel-only tests,
> there I can see it's probably still useful.

Yes I mean test_bpf.ko

I used it as the test basis when I implemented eBPF for powerpc/32. And 
not so long ago it helped decover and fix a bug, see 
https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/89d21e259a94f7d5582ec675aa445f5a79f347e4

> 
> Cheers,
> Daniel

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