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Message-ID: <d91bbb9e-484b-d43d-e62d-0474ff21cf91@iogearbox.net>
Date:   Tue, 17 Jan 2023 16:59:28 +0100
From:   Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>
To:     Tonghao Zhang <tong@...ragraf.org>,
        Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu>
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        "mpe@...erman.id.au" <mpe@...erman.id.au>
Subject: Re: [bpf-next v2] bpf: drop deprecated bpf_jit_enable == 2

On 1/17/23 3:22 PM, Tonghao Zhang wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Jan 17, 2023, at 3:30 PM, Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 17/01/2023 à 06:30, Tonghao Zhang a écrit :
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 9, 2023, at 4:15 PM, Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@...roup.eu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 06/01/2023 à 16:37, Daniel Borkmann a écrit :
>>>>> On 1/5/23 6:53 PM, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>>>>>> Le 05/01/2023 à 04:06, tong@...ragraf.org a écrit :
>>>>>>> From: Tonghao Zhang <tong@...ragraf.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The x86_64 can't dump the valid insn in this way. A test BPF prog
>>>>>>> which include subprog:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ llvm-objdump -d subprog.o
>>>>>>> Disassembly of section .text:
>>>>>>> 0000000000000000 <subprog>:
>>>>>>>           0:       18 01 00 00 73 75 62 70 00 00 00 00 72 6f 67 00 r1
>>>>>>> = 29114459903653235 ll
>>>>>>>           2:       7b 1a f8 ff 00 00 00 00 *(u64 *)(r10 - 8) = r1
>>>>>>>           3:       bf a1 00 00 00 00 00 00 r1 = r10
>>>>>>>           4:       07 01 00 00 f8 ff ff ff r1 += -8
>>>>>>>           5:       b7 02 00 00 08 00 00 00 r2 = 8
>>>>>>>           6:       85 00 00 00 06 00 00 00 call 6
>>>>>>>           7:       95 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 exit
>>>>>>> Disassembly of section raw_tp/sys_enter:
>>>>>>> 0000000000000000 <entry>:
>>>>>>>           0:       85 10 00 00 ff ff ff ff call -1
>>>>>>>           1:       b7 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 r0 = 0
>>>>>>>           2:       95 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 exit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> kernel print message:
>>>>>>> [  580.775387] flen=8 proglen=51 pass=3 image=ffffffffa000c20c
>>>>>>> from=kprobe-load pid=1643
>>>>>>> [  580.777236] JIT code: 00000000: cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
>>>>>>> cc cc cc cc cc
>>>>>>> [  580.779037] JIT code: 00000010: cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
>>>>>>> cc cc cc cc cc
>>>>>>> [  580.780767] JIT code: 00000020: cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc cc
>>>>>>> cc cc cc cc cc
>>>>>>> [  580.782568] JIT code: 00000030: cc cc cc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ bpf_jit_disasm
>>>>>>> 51 bytes emitted from JIT compiler (pass:3, flen:8)
>>>>>>> ffffffffa000c20c + <x>:
>>>>>>>       0:   int3
>>>>>>>       1:   int3
>>>>>>>       2:   int3
>>>>>>>       3:   int3
>>>>>>>       4:   int3
>>>>>>>       5:   int3
>>>>>>>       ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Until bpf_jit_binary_pack_finalize is invoked, we copy rw_header to
>>>>>>> header
>>>>>>> and then image/insn is valid. BTW, we can use the "bpftool prog dump"
>>>>>>> JITed instructions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NACK.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Because the feature is buggy on x86_64, you remove it for all
>>>>>> architectures ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On powerpc bpf_jit_enable == 2 works and is very usefull.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last time I tried to use bpftool on powerpc/32 it didn't work. I don't
>>>>>> remember the details, I think it was an issue with endianess. Maybe it
>>>>>> is fixed now, but it needs to be verified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So please, before removing a working and usefull feature, make sure
>>>>>> there is an alternative available to it for all architectures in all
>>>>>> configurations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, I don't think bpftool is usable to dump kernel BPF selftests.
>>>>>> That's vital when a selftest fails if you want to have a chance to
>>>>>> understand why it fails.
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is actively used by JIT developers and considered useful, I'd be
>>>>> ok to leave it for the time being. Overall goal is to reach feature parity
>>>>> among (at least major arch) JITs and not just have most functionality only
>>>>> available on x86-64 JIT. Could you however check what is not working with
>>>>> bpftool on powerpc/32? Perhaps it's not too much effort to just fix it,
>>>>> but details would be useful otherwise 'it didn't work' is too fuzzy.
>>>>
>>>> Sure I will try to test bpftool again in the coming days.
>>>>
>>>> Previous discussion about that subject is here:
>>>> https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-riscv/patch/20210415093250.3391257-1-Jianlin.Lv@arm.com/#24176847=
>>> Hi Christophe
>>> Any progress? We discuss to deprecate the bpf_jit_enable == 2 in 2021, but bpftool can not run on powerpc.
>>> Now can we fix this issue?
>>
>> Hi Tong,
>>
>> I have started to look at it but I don't have any fruitfull feedback yet.
>>
>> In the meantime, were you able to confirm that bpftool can also be used
>> to dump jitted tests from test_bpf.ko module on x86_64 ? In that can you
>> tell me how to proceed ?
> Now I do not test, but we can dump the insn after bpf_prog_select_runtime in test_bpf.ko. bpf_map_get_info_by_fd can copy the insn to userspace, but we can
> dump them in test_bpf.ko in the same way.

Issue is that these progs are not consumable from userspace (and therefore not bpftool).
it's just simple bpf_prog_alloc + copy of test insns + bpf_prog_select_runtime() to test
JITs (see generate_filter()). Some of them could be converted over to test_verifier, but
not all might actually pass verifier, iirc. Don't think it's a good idea to allow exposing
them via fd tbh.

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