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Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2023 09:44:40 +0100
From: Simon Horman <simon.horman@...igine.com>
To: Peter Delevoryas <peter@....dev>
Cc: sam@...dozajonas.com, davem@...emloft.net, edumazet@...gle.com,
kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com, joel@....id.au,
gwshan@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH 1/1] net/ncsi: Fix netlink major/minor version
numbers
On Tue, Feb 07, 2023 at 02:21:58AM -0600, Peter Delevoryas wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 04, 2023 at 10:19:14AM +0100, Simon Horman wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > A very interesting patch. My review below is based on the information
> > in it, and the references you've provided (thanks for those!). My prior
> > knowledge of this specific topic is, however, limited.
>
> Well, regardless of your familiarity, I think all your comments are really
> good!
Happy to help.
> > First, regarding the subject. I see your reasoning in the cover-letter.
> > But this is perhaps not really a netlink issue, so perhaps:
> >
> > [PATCH net-next] net/ncsi: correct version decoding
>
> Agreed, my cover-letter reasoning was not very strong, I'll update the patch
> title. I guess I won't submit a "v2" version, I'll just start again from v1,
> but I'll certainly link back to this series through lore.kernel.org in the
> cover letter.
>
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 02, 2023 at 09:53:27AM -0800, Peter Delevoryas wrote:
> > > The netlink interface for major and minor version numbers doesn't actually
> > > return the major and minor version numbers.
> > >
> > > It reports a u32 that contains the (major, minor, update, alpha1)
> > > components as the major version number, and then alpha2 as the minor
> > > version number.
> > >
> > > For whatever reason, the u32 byte order was reversed (ntohl): maybe it was
> > > assumed that the encoded value was a single big-endian u32, and alpha2 was
> > > the minor version.
> > >
> > > The correct way to get the supported NC-SI version from the network
> > > controller is to parse the Get Version ID response as described in 8.4.44
> > > of the NC-SI spec[1].
> > >
> > > Get Version ID Response Packet Format
> > >
> > > Bits
> > > +--------+--------+--------+--------+
> > > Bytes | 31..24 | 23..16 | 15..8 | 7..0 |
> > > +-------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> > > | 0..15 | NC-SI Header |
> > > +-------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> > > | 16..19| Response code | Reason code |
> > > +-------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> > > |20..23 | Major | Minor | Update | Alpha1 |
> > > +-------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> > > |24..27 | reserved | Alpha2 |
> > > +-------+--------+--------+--------+--------+
> > > | .... other stuff .... |
> > >
> > > The major, minor, and update fields are all binary-coded decimal (BCD)
> > > encoded [2]. The spec provides examples below the Get Version ID response
> > > format in section 8.4.44.1, but for practical purposes, this is an example
> > > from a live network card:
> > >
> > > root@bmc:~# ncsi-util 0x15
> > > NC-SI Command Response:
> > > cmd: GET_VERSION_ID(0x15)
> > > Response: COMMAND_COMPLETED(0x0000) Reason: NO_ERROR(0x0000)
> > > Payload length = 40
> > >
> > > 20: 0xf1 0xf1 0xf0 0x00 <<<<<<<<< (major, minor, update, alpha1)
> > > 24: 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 <<<<<<<<< (_, _, _, alpha2)
> > >
> > > 28: 0x6d 0x6c 0x78 0x30
> > > 32: 0x2e 0x31 0x00 0x00
> > > 36: 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00
> > > 40: 0x16 0x1d 0x07 0xd2
> > > 44: 0x10 0x1d 0x15 0xb3
> > > 48: 0x00 0x17 0x15 0xb3
> > > 52: 0x00 0x00 0x81 0x19
> > >
> > > This should be parsed as "1.1.0".
> > >
> > > "f" in the upper-nibble means to ignore it, contributing zero.
> > >
> > > If both nibbles are "f", I think the whole field is supposed to be ignored.
> > > Major and minor are "required", meaning they're not supposed to be "ff",
> > > but the update field is "optional" so I think it can be ff.
> >
> > DSP0222 1.1.1 [4], section 8.4.44.1, is somewhat more informative on this
> > than DSP0222 1.0.0 [1]. And, yes, I think you are correct.
> >
> > > I think the
> > > simplest thing to do is just set the major and minor to zero instead of
> > > juggling some conditional logic or something.
> > >
> > > bcd2bin() from "include/linux/bcd.h" seems to assume both nibbles are 0-9,
> > > so I've provided a custom BCD decoding function.
> > >
> > > Alpha1 and alpha2 are ISO/IEC 8859-1 encoded, which just means ASCII
> > > characters as far as I can tell, although the full encoding table for
> > > non-alphabetic characters is slightly different (I think).
> >
> > Yes, that seems to be the case. Where 'slightly' is doing a lot of work
> > above. F.e. the example in DSP0222 1.1.1 uses 'a' = 0x41 and 'b' = 0x42.
> > But in ASCII those code-points are 'A' and 'B'.
>
> Oh, yes, thanks for noticing this, I don't think I did. You're right, the
> example from the spec with lowercase 'a' and 'b' makes it clear that it's _not_
> just ASCII.
>
> >
> > > I imagine the alpha fields are just supposed to be alphabetic characters,
> > > but I haven't seen any network cards actually report a non-zero value for
> > > either.
> >
> > Yes, this corresponds to the explanation in DSP0222 1.1.1.
> >
> > > If people wrote software against this netlink behavior, and were parsing
> > > the major and minor versions themselves from the u32, then this would
> > > definitely break their code.
> >
> > This is my main concern with this patch. How did it ever work?
> > If people are using this, then, as you say, there may well be trouble.
> > But, OTOH, as per your explanation, it seems very wrong.
>
> +1. I'm not sure that people are using this. I think people are using the NCSI
> netlink interface, but mostly for sending commands or receiving notifications.
>
> https://gerrit.openbmc.org/c/openbmc/phosphor-networkd/+/36592
> https://github.com/facebook/openbmc/blob/082296b3cc62e55741a8af2d44a1f0bc397f4e88/common/recipes-core/ncsid-v2/files/ncsid.c
>
> >
> > >
> > > [1] https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0222_1.0.0.pdf
> > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary-coded_decimal
> > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1
> >
> > [4] https://www.dmtf.org/sites/default/files/standards/documents/DSP0222_1.1.1.pdf
> >
> > > Fixes: 138635cc27c9 ("net/ncsi: NCSI response packet handler")
> > > Signed-off-by: Peter Delevoryas <peter@....dev>
> > > ---
> > > net/ncsi/internal.h | 7 +++++--
> > > net/ncsi/ncsi-netlink.c | 4 ++--
> > > net/ncsi/ncsi-pkt.h | 7 +++++--
> > > net/ncsi/ncsi-rsp.c | 26 ++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> > > 4 files changed, 36 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/net/ncsi/internal.h b/net/ncsi/internal.h
> > > index 03757e76bb6b..374412ed780b 100644
> > > --- a/net/ncsi/internal.h
> > > +++ b/net/ncsi/internal.h
> > > @@ -105,8 +105,11 @@ enum {
> > >
> > >
> > > struct ncsi_channel_version {
> > > - u32 version; /* Supported BCD encoded NCSI version */
> > > - u32 alpha2; /* Supported BCD encoded NCSI version */
> > > + u8 major; /* NCSI version major */
> > > + u8 minor; /* NCSI version minor */
> > > + u8 update; /* NCSI version update */
> > > + char alpha1; /* NCSI version alpha1 */
> > > + char alpha2; /* NCSI version alpha2 */
> >
> > Splitting hairs here. But if char is for storing ASCII, and alpha1 and
> > alpha2 are ISO/IEC 8859-1, then perhaps u8 is a better type for those
> > fields?
>
> Oh, that's a good point, you're not splitting hairs, you're correct, I should
> change it to u8 and convert it to an ASCII char for display.
Yeah. I think it is up to whatever consumes the attribute - user-space -
to figure out how to display it.
> > > u8 fw_name[12]; /* Firmware name string */
> > > u32 fw_version; /* Firmware version */
> > > u16 pci_ids[4]; /* PCI identification */
> > > diff --git a/net/ncsi/ncsi-netlink.c b/net/ncsi/ncsi-netlink.c
> > > index d27f4eccce6d..fe681680b5d9 100644
> > > --- a/net/ncsi/ncsi-netlink.c
> > > +++ b/net/ncsi/ncsi-netlink.c
> > > @@ -71,8 +71,8 @@ static int ncsi_write_channel_info(struct sk_buff *skb,
> > > if (nc == nc->package->preferred_channel)
> > > nla_put_flag(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_FORCED);
> > >
> > > - nla_put_u32(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_MAJOR, nc->version.version);
> > > - nla_put_u32(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_MINOR, nc->version.alpha2);
> > > + nla_put_u32(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_MAJOR, nc->version.major);
> > > + nla_put_u32(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_MINOR, nc->version.minor);
> >
> > Maybe for backwards compatibility, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_MAJOR and
> > NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_MINOR should continue to be used in the old,
> > broken way? Just a thought. Not sure if it is a good one.
>
> Yeah, probably a good idea. Another way would be to keep the same NCSI
> attribute name, but use a kernel config to control the behavior. That seems
> complicated and error prone though.
>
> If you're trying to have a userspace netlink program that's portable to
> multiple linux images, changing the behavior of the version attributes
> significantly like that through a kernel config would be completely opaque to
> the userspace program.
Yes, I don't think we should use that approach.
IMHO, the idea is for the interface to be consistent.
> Having separate attribute names makes it easy to just ignore whichever
> attribute isn't available (doesn't return a response/etc).
Yes, if we want compatibility I think that is the way to go.
> I'm not totally sure what the attribute names should be, but I'm sure we can
> figure something out. I'll just post something and you guys can comment on it
> if I choose something weird.
Good plan.
> > In any case, I do wonder if all the extracted version fields, including,
> > update, alpha1 and alpha2 should be sent over netlink. I.e. using some
> > new (u8) attributes.
>
> Probably, yeah. I'll include this in the next update.
>
> >
> > > nla_put_string(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VERSION_STR, nc->version.fw_name);
> > >
> > > vid_nest = nla_nest_start_noflag(skb, NCSI_CHANNEL_ATTR_VLAN_LIST);
> > > diff --git a/net/ncsi/ncsi-pkt.h b/net/ncsi/ncsi-pkt.h
> > > index ba66c7dc3a21..c9d1da34dc4d 100644
> > > --- a/net/ncsi/ncsi-pkt.h
> > > +++ b/net/ncsi/ncsi-pkt.h
> > > @@ -197,9 +197,12 @@ struct ncsi_rsp_gls_pkt {
> > > /* Get Version ID */
> > > struct ncsi_rsp_gvi_pkt {
> > > struct ncsi_rsp_pkt_hdr rsp; /* Response header */
> > > - __be32 ncsi_version; /* NCSI version */
> > > + unsigned char major; /* NCSI version major */
> > > + unsigned char minor; /* NCSI version minor */
> > > + unsigned char update; /* NCSI version update */
> > > + unsigned char alpha1; /* NCSI version alpha1 */
> > > unsigned char reserved[3]; /* Reserved */
> > > - unsigned char alpha2; /* NCSI version */
> > > + unsigned char alpha2; /* NCSI version alpha2 */
> >
> > Again, I wonder about u8 vs char here. But it's just splitting hairs.
>
> Yeah, I guess I was using "unsigned char" because it seemed like all the
> structs are using "unsigned char" instead of "u8", but it really probably
> should be a u8 from the start. Especially true for the major, minor, and update
> fields.
Maybe it is better for consistency. I am unsure.
> > > unsigned char fw_name[12]; /* f/w name string */
> >
> > Also, not strictly related to this patch, but in reading
> > DSP0222 1.1.1 [4], section 8.4.44.3 I note that the firmware name,
> > which I assume this field holds, is also ISO/IEC 8859-1 encoded
> > (as opposed to ASCII). I wonder if there are any oversights
> > in that area in the code.
>
> Oh! Hrrrrmmm yeah. Ugh. I guess I'll leave that alone for now, I think people
> are actually building stuff that queries the firmware version, and higher level
> tooling is probably checking specific string values, and they might not be case
> insensitive.
>
> People can't actually compile userspace programs against this directly, so
> changing this internal header struct field would be fine, but if we actually
> change the firmware name string appearance so that it becomes ALL_CAPS instead
> of lowercase/etc, that behavior change might break something.
I think as long as the value ends up in user-space - byte for byte
accurate. Then user-space can future out what to do with it.
So perhaps things are ok here. In any case, it's not strictly
related to this patch. So let's leave it for now.
> > > __be32 fw_version; /* f/w version */
> > > __be16 pci_ids[4]; /* PCI IDs */
> > > diff --git a/net/ncsi/ncsi-rsp.c b/net/ncsi/ncsi-rsp.c
> > > index 6447a09932f5..7a805b86a12d 100644
> > > --- a/net/ncsi/ncsi-rsp.c
> > > +++ b/net/ncsi/ncsi-rsp.c
> > > @@ -19,6 +19,19 @@
> > > #include "ncsi-pkt.h"
> > > #include "ncsi-netlink.h"
> > >
> > > +/* Nibbles within [0xA, 0xF] add zero "0" to the returned value.
> > > + * Optional fields (encoded as 0xFF) will default to zero.
> > > + */
> >
> > I agree this makes sense. But did you find reference to this
> > being the BCD encoding for NC-SI versions? I feel that I'm missing
> > something obvious here.
>
> This is transcribing a few lines from the spec into comments: I might want to
> just quote the spec directly, and reference the section and document name
> instead.
>
> "The value 0xF in the most-significant nibble of a BCD-encoded value indicates
> that the most significant nibble should be ignored and the overall field
> treated as a single digit value."
>
> "A value of 0xFF in the update field indicates that the entire field is not
> present. 0xFF is not allowed as a value for the major or minor fields."
>
> DSP0222 1.1.1 8.4.44.1 NC-SI Version encoding
I think quoting the spec is good.
And the treatment of 0xF and 0xFF is clear to me.
But what I am still a little unclear on the treatment of [0xA, 0xE].
> > The code below looks good to me: I think it matches your reasoning above :)
>
> :)
>
> >
> > > +static u8 decode_bcd_u8(u8 x)
> > > +{
> > > + int lo = x & 0xF;
> > > + int hi = x >> 4;
> > > +
> > > + lo = lo < 0xA ? lo : 0;
> > > + hi = hi < 0xA ? hi : 0;
> > > + return lo + hi * 10;
> > > +}
> > > +
> > > static int ncsi_validate_rsp_pkt(struct ncsi_request *nr,
> > > unsigned short payload)
> > > {
> > > @@ -804,9 +817,18 @@ static int ncsi_rsp_handler_gvi(struct ncsi_request *nr)
> > > if (!nc)
> > > return -ENODEV;
> > >
> > > - /* Update to channel's version info */
> > > + /* Update channel's version info
> > > + *
> > > + * Major, minor, and update fields are supposed to be
> > > + * unsigned integers encoded as packed BCD.
> > > + *
> > > + * Alpha1 and alpha2 are ISO/IEC 8859-1 characters.
> > > + */
> > > ncv = &nc->version;
> > > - ncv->version = ntohl(rsp->ncsi_version);
> > > + ncv->major = decode_bcd_u8(rsp->major);
> > > + ncv->minor = decode_bcd_u8(rsp->minor);
> > > + ncv->update = decode_bcd_u8(rsp->update);
> > > + ncv->alpha1 = rsp->alpha1;
> > > ncv->alpha2 = rsp->alpha2;
> > > memcpy(ncv->fw_name, rsp->fw_name, 12);
> > > ncv->fw_version = ntohl(rsp->fw_version);
> > > --
> > > 2.30.2
> > >
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