netdev - Re: [RFC net-next 1/2] page_pool: allow caching from safely localized NAPI

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Message-ID: <263c9940-ecd6-eba1-c971-2fd743671905@huawei.com>
Date:   Tue, 4 Apr 2023 18:50:30 +0800
From:   Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>
To:     Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>
CC:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, <davem@...emloft.net>,
        <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, <pabeni@...hat.com>, <hawk@...nel.org>,
        <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next 1/2] page_pool: allow caching from safely localized
 NAPI

On 2023/4/4 12:21, Eric Dumazet wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 2:53 AM Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com> wrote:
> 
>> Interesting.
>> I wonder if we can make this more generic by adding the skb to per napi
>> list instead of sd->defer_list, so that we can always use NAPI kicking to
>> flush skb as net_tx_action() done for sd->completion_queue instead of
>> softirq kicking?
> 
> We do not have direct skb  -> napi association yet, but using an
> expensive hash lookup.
> 
> I had the intent of adding per-cpu caches in this infrastructure,
> to not acquire the remote-cpu defer_lock for one skb at a time.
> (This is I think causing some regressions for small packets, with no frags)

Is there any reason not to introduce back the per socket defer_list to
not acquire the defer_lock for one skb at a time instead of adding
per-cpu caches?

> 
>>
>> And it seems we know which napi binds to a specific socket through
>> busypoll mechanism, we can reuse that to release a skb to the napi
>> bound to that socket?
> 
> busypoll is not often used, and we usually burn (spinning) cycles there,
> not sure we want to optimize it?

How about only optimize napi_by_id()?
To be honest, I am not sure how to optimize it exactly, maybe add a callback
to notify the deletion of napi to the socket?

> 
>>
>>>
>>> The main case we'll miss out on is when application runs on the same
>>> CPU as NAPI. In that case we don't use the deferred skb free path.
>>> We could disable softirq one that path, too... maybe?
>>>
> .
>