netdev - Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 01/15] virtchnl: add virtchnl version 2 ops

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Message-ID: <9ADED21A-AF91-4B3A-82F3-FB257EC2B3CA@intel.com>
Date:   Tue, 4 Apr 2023 07:59:40 +0000
From:   "Orr, Michael" <michael.orr@...el.com>
To:     Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@....com>
CC:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
        "Linga, Pavan Kumar" <pavan.kumar.linga@...el.com>,
        "intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org" <intel-wired-lan@...ts.osuosl.org>,
        "netdev@...r.kernel.org" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
        "Saleem, Shiraz" <shiraz.saleem@...el.com>,
        "Tantilov, Emil S" <emil.s.tantilov@...el.com>,
        "willemb@...gle.com" <willemb@...gle.com>,
        "decot@...gle.com" <decot@...gle.com>,
        "Hay, Joshua A" <joshua.a.hay@...el.com>,
        "Samudrala, Sridhar" <sridhar.samudrala@...el.com>,
        "Brady, Alan" <alan.brady@...el.com>,
        "Chittim, Madhu" <madhu.chittim@...el.com>,
        "Burra, Phani R" <phani.r.burra@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next 01/15] virtchnl: add virtchnl
 version 2 ops

This version is not yet the standard IDPF version. It is the current Intel driver.
The mentions of “standard” and OASIS Zaretsky because this version is the 
Basis from which a standard driver WILL be developed at OASIS, which is relevant info to know. 

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> On Apr 4, 2023, at 01:55, Shannon Nelson <shannon.nelson@....com> wrote:
> 
> On 4/3/23 3:20 PM, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Apr 2023 15:01:55 -0700 Shannon Nelson wrote:
>>>> diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/idpf/virtchnl2.h b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/idpf/virtchnl2.h
>>> 
>>> If this is to be a standardized interface, why is this header buried in
>>> the driver specific directory instead of something more accessible like
>>> include/linux/idpf?
>> The noise about this driver being "a standard" is quite confusing.
>> Are you considering implementing any of it?
>> I haven't heard of anyone who is yet, so I thought all this talk of
>> a standard is pretty empty from the technical perspective :(
> 
> Just that they seem to be pushing it to become a standard through OASIS,
> as they infer by pointing to their OASIS docs in this patch, and I was under the (mistaken?) impression that this would be the One Driver for any device that implemented the HW/FW interface, kinda like virtio.  If that's true, then why would the driver live under the Intel directory?
> 
> sln