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Date: Tue, 2 May 2023 06:30:21 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 3/3] mm/gup: disallow FOLL_LONGTERM GUP-fast writing
to file-backed mappings
On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 02:08:10PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 12:25:54PM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 01:13:34PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 12:11:49AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes wrote:
> > > > @@ -95,6 +96,77 @@ static inline struct folio *try_get_folio(struct page *page, int refs)
> > > > return folio;
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > +#ifdef CONFIG_MMU_GATHER_RCU_TABLE_FREE
> > > > +static bool stabilise_mapping_rcu(struct folio *folio)
> > > > +{
> > > > + struct address_space *mapping = READ_ONCE(folio->mapping);
> > > > +
> > > > + rcu_read_lock();
> > > > +
> > > > + return mapping == READ_ONCE(folio->mapping);
> > >
> > > This doesn't make sense; why bother reading the same thing twice?
> >
> > The intent is to see whether the folio->mapping has been truncated from
> > underneath us, as per the futex code that Kirill referred to which does
> > something similar [1].
>
> Yeah, but per that 3rd load you got nothing here. Also that futex code
> did the early load to deal with the !mapping case, but you're not doing
> that.
>
> > > Who cares if the thing changes from before; what you care about is that
> > > the value you see has stable storage, this doesn't help with that.
> > >
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static void unlock_rcu(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > + rcu_read_unlock();
> > > > +}
> > > > +#else
> > > > +static bool stabilise_mapping_rcu(struct folio *)
> > > > +{
> > > > + return true;
> > > > +}
> > > > +
> > > > +static void unlock_rcu(void)
> > > > +{
> > > > +}
> > > > +#endif
> > >
> > > Anyway, this all can go away. RCU can't progress while you have
> > > interrupts disabled anyway.
> >
> > There seems to be other code in the kernel that assumes that this is not
> > the case,
>
> Yeah, so Paul went back on forth on that a bit. It used to be true in
> the good old days when everything was simple. Then Paul made things
> complicated by separating out sched-RCU bh-RCU and 'regular' RCU
> flavours.
Almost. ;-)
The way I made things complicated was instead by creating preemptible RCU
for the real-time effort. The original non-preemptible RCU was still
required for a number of use cases (for example, waiting for hardware
interrupt handlers), so it had to stay. Separately, network-based DoS
attacks necessitated adding RCU bh.
> At that point disabling IRQs would only (officially) inhibit sched and
> bh RCU flavours, but not the regular RCU.
Quite right.
> But then some years ago Linus convinced Paul that having all these
> separate RCU flavours with separate QS rules was a big pain in the
> backside and Paul munged them all together again.
What happened was that someone used one flavor of RCU reader and a
different flavor of RCU updater, creating an exploitable bug.
http://www2.rdrop.com/~paulmck/RCU/cve.2019.01.23e.pdf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZX1aokdNiY
And Linus asked that this bug be ruled out, so...
> So now, anything that inhibits any of the RCU flavours inhibits them
> all. So disabling IRQs is sufficient.
...for v4.20 and later, exactly.
Thanx, Paul
> > i.e. the futex code, though not sure if that's being run with
> > IRQs disabled...
>
> That futex code runs in preemptible context, per the lock_page() that
> can sleep etc.. :-)
>
> > > > +/*
> > > > + * Used in the GUP-fast path to determine whether a FOLL_PIN | FOLL_LONGTERM |
> > > > + * FOLL_WRITE pin is permitted for a specific folio.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * This assumes the folio is stable and pinned.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * Writing to pinned file-backed dirty tracked folios is inherently problematic
> > > > + * (see comment describing the writeable_file_mapping_allowed() function). We
> > > > + * therefore try to avoid the most egregious case of a long-term mapping doing
> > > > + * so.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * This function cannot be as thorough as that one as the VMA is not available
> > > > + * in the fast path, so instead we whitelist known good cases.
> > > > + *
> > > > + * The folio is stable, but the mapping might not be. When truncating for
> > > > + * instance, a zap is performed which triggers TLB shootdown. IRQs are disabled
> > > > + * so we are safe from an IPI, but some architectures use an RCU lock for this
> > > > + * operation, so we acquire an RCU lock to ensure the mapping is stable.
> > > > + */
> > > > +static bool folio_longterm_write_pin_allowed(struct folio *folio)
> > > > +{
> > > > + bool ret;
> > > > +
> > > > + /* hugetlb mappings do not require dirty tracking. */
> > > > + if (folio_test_hugetlb(folio))
> > > > + return true;
> > > > +
> > >
> > > This:
> > >
> > > > + if (stabilise_mapping_rcu(folio)) {
> > > > + struct address_space *mapping = folio_mapping(folio);
> > >
> > > And this is 3rd read of folio->mapping, just for giggles?
> >
> > I like to giggle :)
> >
> > Actually this is to handle the various cases in which the mapping might not
> > be what we want (i.e. have PAGE_MAPPING_FLAGS set) which doesn't appear to
> > have a helper exposed for a check. Given previous review about duplication
> > I felt best to reuse this even though it does access again... yes I felt
> > weird about doing that.
>
> Right, I had a peek inside folio_mapping(), but the point is that this
> 3rd load might see yet *another* value of mapping from the prior two
> loads, rendering them somewhat worthless.
>
> > > > +
> > > > + /*
> > > > + * Neither anonymous nor shmem-backed folios require
> > > > + * dirty tracking.
> > > > + */
> > > > + ret = folio_test_anon(folio) ||
> > > > + (mapping && shmem_mapping(mapping));
> > > > + } else {
> > > > + /* If the mapping is unstable, fallback to the slow path. */
> > > > + ret = false;
> > > > + }
> > > > +
> > > > + unlock_rcu();
> > > > +
> > > > + return ret;
> > >
> > > then becomes:
> > >
> > >
> > > if (folio_test_anon(folio))
> > > return true;
> >
> > This relies on the mapping so belongs below the lockdep assert imo.
>
> Oh, right you are.
>
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * Having IRQs disabled (as per GUP-fast) also inhibits RCU
> > > * grace periods from making progress, IOW. they imply
> > > * rcu_read_lock().
> > > */
> > > lockdep_assert_irqs_disabled();
> > >
> > > /*
> > > * Inodes and thus address_space are RCU freed and thus safe to
> > > * access at this point.
> > > */
> > > mapping = folio_mapping(folio);
> > > if (mapping && shmem_mapping(mapping))
> > > return true;
> > >
> > > return false;
> > >
> > > > +}
> >
> > I'm more than happy to do this (I'd rather drop the RCU bits if possible)
> > but need to be sure it's safe.
>
> GUP-fast as a whole relies on it :-)
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