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Message-ID: <1683531716.238961-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com> Date: Mon, 8 May 2023 15:41:56 +0800 From: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@...ux.alibaba.com> To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> Cc: huangml@...ur.tech, zy@...ur.tech, Jason Wang <jasowang@...hat.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>, "open list:VIRTIO CORE AND NET DRIVERS" <virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org>, "open list:NETWORKING DRIVERS" <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Hao Chen <chenh@...ur.tech>, hengqi@...ux.alibaba.com Subject: Re: [PATCH] virtio_net: set default mtu to 1500 when 'Device maximum MTU' bigger than 1500 On Mon, 8 May 2023 02:43:24 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 02:18:08PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote: > > On Mon, 8 May 2023 02:15:46 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, May 08, 2023 at 10:01:59AM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote: > > > > On Sun, 7 May 2023 04:58:58 -0400, "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote: > > > > > On Sat, May 06, 2023 at 04:56:35PM +0800, Hao Chen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 在 2023/5/6 10:50, Xuan Zhuo 写道: > > > > > > > On Sat, 6 May 2023 10:15:29 +0800, Hao Chen <chenh@...ur.tech> wrote: > > > > > > > > When VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU(3) Device maximum MTU reporting is supported. > > > > > > > > If offered by the device, device advises driver about the value of its > > > > > > > > maximum MTU. If negotiated, the driver uses mtu as the maximum > > > > > > > > MTU value. But there the driver also uses it as default mtu, > > > > > > > > some devices may have a maximum MTU greater than 1500, this may > > > > > > > > cause some large packages to be discarded, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You mean tx packet? > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If yes, I do not think this is the problem of driver. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you should give more details about the discard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > In the current code, if the maximum MTU supported by the virtio net hardware > > > > > > is 9000, the default MTU of the virtio net driver will also be set to 9000. > > > > > > When sending packets through "ping -s 5000", if the peer router does not > > > > > > support negotiating a path MTU through ICMP packets, the packets will be > > > > > > discarded. If the peer router supports negotiating path mtu through ICMP > > > > > > packets, the host side will perform packet sharding processing based on the > > > > > > negotiated path mtu, which is generally within 1500. > > > > > > This is not a bugfix patch, I think setting the default mtu to within 1500 > > > > > > would be more suitable here.Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > I don't think VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU is appropriate for support for jumbo packets. > > > > > The spec says: > > > > > The device MUST forward transmitted packets of up to mtu (plus low level ethernet header length) size with > > > > > gso_type NONE or ECN, and do so without fragmentation, after VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU has been success- > > > > > fully negotiated. > > > > > VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU has been designed for all kind of tunneling devices, > > > > > and this is why we set mtu to max by default. > > > > > > > > > > For things like jumbo frames where MTU might or might not be available, > > > > > a new feature would be more appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > So for jumbo frame, what is the problem? > > > > > > > > We are trying to do this. @Heng > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > It is not a problem as such. But VIRTIO_NET_F_MTU will set the > > > default MTU not just the maximum one, because spec seems to > > > say it can. > > > > I see. > > > > In the case of Jumbo Frame, we also hope that the driver will set the default > > directly to the max mtu. Just like what you said "Bigger packets = better > > performance." > > > > I don't know, in any scenario, when the hardware supports a large mtu, but we do > > not want the user to use it by default. > > When other devices on the same LAN have mtu set to 1500 and > won't accept bigger packets. So, that depends on pmtu/tcp-probe-mtu. If the os without pmtu/tcp-probe-mtu has a bigger mtu, then it's big packet will lost. Thanks. > > > Of course, the scene that this patch > > wants to handle does exist, but I have never thought that this is a problem at > > the driver level. > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so I changed the MTU to a more > > > > > > > > general 1500 when 'Device maximum MTU' bigger than 1500. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Hao Chen <chenh@...ur.tech> > > > > > > > > --- > > > > > > > > drivers/net/virtio_net.c | 5 ++++- > > > > > > > > 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c > > > > > > > > index 8d8038538fc4..e71c7d1b5f29 100644 > > > > > > > > --- a/drivers/net/virtio_net.c > > > > > > > > +++ b/drivers/net/virtio_net.c > > > > > > > > @@ -4040,7 +4040,10 @@ static int virtnet_probe(struct virtio_device *vdev) > > > > > > > > goto free; > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - dev->mtu = mtu; > > > > > > > > + if (mtu > 1500) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > s/1500/ETH_DATA_LEN/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > + dev->mtu = 1500; > > > > > > > > + else > > > > > > > > + dev->mtu = mtu; > > > > > > > > dev->max_mtu = mtu; > > > > > > > > } > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > 2.27.0 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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