netdev - Re: [RFC net-next] net: veth: reduce page_pool memory footprint using half page per-buffer

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Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 16:14:48 +0200
From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
To: Alexander Lobakin <aleksander.lobakin@...el.com>
Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org, lorenzo.bianconi@...hat.com,
	bpf@...r.kernel.org, davem@...emloft.net, edumazet@...gle.com,
	kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com, ast@...nel.org,
	daniel@...earbox.net, hawk@...nel.org, john.fastabend@...il.com,
	linyunsheng@...wei.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next] net: veth: reduce page_pool memory footprint
 using half page per-buffer

> From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
> Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 15:08:13 +0200
> 
> > In order to reduce page_pool memory footprint, rely on
> > page_pool_dev_alloc_frag routine and reduce buffer size
> > (VETH_PAGE_POOL_FRAG_SIZE) to PAGE_SIZE / 2 in order to consume one page
> > for two 1500B frames. Reduce VETH_XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM to 192 from 256
> > (XDP_PACKET_HEADROOM) to fit max_head_size in VETH_PAGE_POOL_FRAG_SIZE.
> > Please note, using default values (CONFIG_MAX_SKB_FRAGS=17), maximum
> > supported MTU is now reduced to 36350B.
> 
> I thought we're stepping away from page splitting bit by bit O_o

do you mean to driver private page_split implementation? AFAIK we are not
stepping away from page_pool page split implementation (or maybe I missed it :))

> Primarily for the reasons you mentioned / worked around here: it creates
> several significant limitations and at least on 64-bit systems it
> doesn't scale anymore. 192 bytes of headroom is less than what XDP
> expects (isn't it? Isn't 256 standard-standard, so that skb XDP path
> reallocates heads only to have 256+ there?), 384 bytes of shinfo can
> change anytime and even now page split simply blocks you from increasing
> MAX_SKB_FRAGS even by one. Not speaking of MTU limitations etc.
> BTW Intel drivers suffer from the very same things due solely to page
> split (and I'm almost done with converting at least some of them to Page
> Pool and 1 page per buffer model), I don't recommend deliberately
> falling into that pit =\ :D

I am not sure about the 192 vs 256 bytes of headroom (this is why I sent this
patch as RFC, my main goal is to discuss about this requirement). In the
previous discussion [0] we deferred this implementation since if we do not
reduce requested xdp headroom, we will not be able to fit two 1500B frames
into a single page (for skb_shared_info size [1]) and we introduce a performance
penalty.

Regards,
Lorenzo

[0] https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/6298f73f7cc7391c7c4a52a6a89b1ae21488bda1.1682188837.git.lorenzo@kernel.org/
[1] $ pahole -C skb_shared_info vmlinux.o 
struct skb_shared_info {
        __u8                       flags;                /*     0     1 */
        __u8                       meta_len;             /*     1     1 */
        __u8                       nr_frags;             /*     2     1 */
        __u8                       tx_flags;             /*     3     1 */
        unsigned short             gso_size;             /*     4     2 */
        unsigned short             gso_segs;             /*     6     2 */
        struct sk_buff *           frag_list;            /*     8     8 */
        struct skb_shared_hwtstamps hwtstamps;           /*    16     8 */
        unsigned int               gso_type;             /*    24     4 */
        u32                        tskey;                /*    28     4 */
        atomic_t                   dataref;              /*    32     4 */
        unsigned int               xdp_frags_size;       /*    36     4 */
        void *                     destructor_arg;       /*    40     8 */
        skb_frag_t                 frags[17];            /*    48   272 */

        /* size: 320, cachelines: 5, members: 14 */
};

> 
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
> > ---
> >  drivers/net/veth.c | 39 +++++++++++++++++++++++++--------------
> >  1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
> [...]
> 
> Thanks,
> Olek

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