netdev - Re: [PATCH RFC] Providing a helper for PCS inband negotiation

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Message-ID: <9f7b1d6f-ca62-4c6c-9cd5-37726e7857b7@lunn.ch>
Date: Mon, 15 May 2023 15:58:09 +0200
From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>
To: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] Providing a helper for PCS inband negotiation

> 2. XLGMII.. Looking at the XPCS driver, it's unclear whether Clause 73
>    AN gets used for this. A quick scan of IEEE 802.3 suggests that
>    XLGMII doesn't have any support for any inband signalling, and it's
>    just an intermediary protocol between the MAC (more specifically the
>    RS, but for the purposes of this I'll just refer to MAC) and the
>    attached PCS, and any autonegotiation happens after the XLGMII link.

So isn't XLGMII then a generic PHY thing, not a phylink thing?

Or am i not correctly understanding how
drivers/phy/marvell/phy-*-comphy.c and
drivers/phy/microchip/*_serdev.c fit into the overall picture?

	Andrew