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Message-ID: <ZHZeNnlNC7J50cCs@shell.armlinux.org.uk>
Date: Tue, 30 May 2023 21:36:06 +0100
From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@...linux.org.uk>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>, netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@...il.com>,
	Oleksij Rempel <linux@...pel-privat.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFTv3 00/24] net: ethernet: Rework EEE

On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 01:03:15PM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 5/30/23 12:48, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > I don't really care much what we decide means 'enabled'. I just want
> > it moved out of MAC drivers and into the core so it is consistent.
> 
> Understood this is slightly out of the scope of what you are doing which is
> to have an unified behavior, but we also have a shot at defining a correct
> behavior.

Yes, having unified behaviour is good only if we don't end up boxing
ourselves into a corner when trying to unify it. That said, I suspect
many are just broken in one way or another.

What always makes me rather nervous is that trying to fix this kind of
thing will inevitably change the user visible behaviour, and then we
hope that that doesn't cause people's setups to regress.

So, IMHO, if we can decide what the correct behaviour and use should
be before we unify it, the better chance we stand at not having
differing behaviours from future kernel versions as we end up revising
the unified behaviour.

I hope that makes sense! :)

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