netdev - Re: [RFC] net: dsa: slave: Advertise correct EEE capabilities at slave PHY setup

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Message-ID: <20230531113121.4dd392d9@wsk>
Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 11:31:26 +0200
From: Lukasz Majewski <lukma@...x.de>
To: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@...gutronix.de>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@...n.ch>, Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
 Vivien Didelot <vivien.didelot@...il.com>, Florian Fainelli
 <f.fainelli@...il.com>, Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@...il.com>, "David S.
 Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>,
 netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] net: dsa: slave: Advertise correct EEE capabilities at
 slave PHY setup

Hi Oleksij,

> Hi Lukasz,
> 
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 03:40:39PM +0200, Lukasz Majewski wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> >   
> > > On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 02:26:21PM +0200, Lukasz Majewski wrote:  
> > > > One can disable in device tree advertising of EEE capabilities
> > > > of PHY when 'eee-broken-100tx' property is present in DTS.
> > > > 
> > > > With DSA switch it also may happen that one would need to
> > > > disable EEE due to some network issues.    
> > > 
> > > Is EEE actually broken in the MAC/PHY combination?
> > >   
> > 
> > Problem is that when I connect on this project some non-manageable
> > switches (which by default have EEE enabled), then I observe very
> > rare and sporadic link loss and reconnection.  
> 
> The interesting question is, do other link partner or local system is
> broken?

I was able to reproduce customer issue on my local setup with this
switch.

Moreover, only two devices were connected to this switch - mv88e6071
and the host PC.

> In some cases, not proper tx-timer was triggering this kind of
> symptoms. And timer configuration may depend on the link speed. So,
> driver may be need to take care of this.

The speed is only 100 Mbps, full duplex (as this switch only supports
speed up till 100Mbps). 

> 
> > Disabling EEE solves the problem.
> >   
> > > You should not be using this DT option for configuration. It is
> > > there because there is some hardware which is truly broken, and
> > > needs EEE turned off.  
> > 
> > Yes, I do think that the above sentence sums up my use case.  
> 
> As Andrew already described, current linux kernel EEE support is not
> in the best shape, it is hard to see the difference between broken HW
> and SW.

Ok.

> 
> > > If EEE does work, but you need to turn it off because of latency
> > > etc, then please use ethtool.
> > >   
> > 
> > Yes, correct - it is possible to disable the EEE with 
> > 
> > ethtool --set-eee lan2 eee off
> > 
> > However, as I've stated in the mail, I cannot re-enable EEE once
> > disabled with:
> > 
> > ethtool --set-eee lan2 eee on
> > 
> > ethtool --show-eee lan2
> > EEE Settings for lan2:
> >         EEE status: not supported
> > 
> > 
> > As the capability register shows value of 0.  
> 
> Some PHYs indeed have this issues:
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/net/phy/micrel.c?h=v6.4-rc4#n1402
> 
> In case of your older kernel version, you will need to fake access to
> the EEE caps register.

Thanks for pointing this out - I will add this functionality when
re-enabling of EEE will be required via ethtool.

> 
> Regards,
> Oleksij




Best regards,

Lukasz Majewski

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