netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v4 1/5] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA

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Message-ID: <20230614100713.5ee2538f@kernel.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 10:07:13 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>
Cc: <davem@...emloft.net>, <pabeni@...hat.com>, <netdev@...r.kernel.org>,
 <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>,
 Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>, Saeed Mahameed
 <saeedm@...dia.com>, Leon Romanovsky <leon@...nel.org>, Eric Dumazet
 <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>, Ilias
 Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>, <linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 1/5] page_pool: frag API support for 32-bit
 arch with 64-bit DMA

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 19:42:29 +0800 Yunsheng Lin wrote:
> On 2023/6/14 12:09, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > On Mon, 12 Jun 2023 21:02:52 +0800 Yunsheng Lin wrote:  
> >> Currently page_pool_alloc_frag() is not supported in 32-bit
> >> arch with 64-bit DMA, which seems to be quite common, see
> >> [1], which means driver may need to handle it when using
> >> page_pool_alloc_frag() API.
> >>
> >> In order to simplify the driver's work for supporting page
> >> frag, this patch allows page_pool_alloc_frag() to call
> >> page_pool_alloc_pages() to return a big page frag without  
> > 
> > it returns an entire (potentially compound) page, not a frag.
> > AFAICT  
> 
> As driver calls page_pool_alloc_frag(), and page_pool_alloc_frag()
> calls page_pool_alloc_pages(), page_pool_alloc_pages() is hidden
> inside page_pool_alloc_frag(), so it is a big page frag from driver's
> point of view:)

fragment : a part broken off, detached, or incomplete
          a small part broken or separated off something.

"big fragment" is definitely not the whole thing.

> >> page splitting because of overlap issue between pp_frag_count
> >> and dma_addr_upper in 'struct page' for those arches.  
> > 
> > These two lines seem to belong in the first paragraph,
> >   
> >> As page_pool_create() with PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG is supported in  
> > 
> > "is" -> "will now be"
> >   
> >> 32-bit arch with 64-bit DMA now, mlx5 calls page_pool_create()
> >> with PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG and manipulate the page->pp_frag_count
> >> directly using the page_pool_defrag_page(), so add a checking
> >> for it to aoivd writing to page->pp_frag_count that may not
> >> exist in some arch.  
> > 
> > This paragraph needs some proof reading :(  
> 
> Perhaps something like below?
> mlx5 calls page_pool_create() with PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG and is
> not using the frag API, as PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG checking for arch
> with PAGE_POOL_DMA_USE_PP_FRAG_COUNT being true will now be
> removed in this patch, so add back the checking of
> PAGE_POOL_DMA_USE_PP_FRAG_COUNT for mlx5 driver to retain the
> old behavior, which is to avoid mlx5e_page_release_fragmented()
> calling page_pool_defrag_page() to write to page->pp_frag_count.

That's a 7-line long, single sentence. Not much better.

> >> Note that it may aggravate truesize underestimate problem for
> >> skb as there is no page splitting for those pages, if driver
> >> need a accuate truesize, it may calculate that according to  
> > 
> > accurate
> >   
> >> frag size, page order and PAGE_POOL_DMA_USE_PP_FRAG_COUNT
> >> being true or not. And we may provide a helper for that if it
> >> turns out to be helpful.
> >>
> >> 1. https://lore.kernel.org/all/20211117075652.58299-1-linyunsheng@huawei.com/  
> >   
> >> +		/* Return error here to avoid writing to page->pp_frag_count in
> >> +		 * mlx5e_page_release_fragmented() for page->pp_frag_count is  
> > 
> > I don't see any direct access to pp_frag_count anywhere outside of
> > page_pool.h in net-next. PAGE_POOL_DMA_USE_PP_FRAG_COUNT sounds like 
> > an internal flag, drivers shouldn't be looking at it, IMO.  
> 
> mlx5e_page_release_fragmented() calls page_pool_defrag_page(), maybe
> below is more correct:
> 
> /* Return error here to avoid mlx5e_page_release_fragmented() calling
>  * page_pool_defrag_page() to write to page->pp_frag_count which is
>  * not usable for arch with PAGE_POOL_DMA_USE_PP_FRAG_COUNT being true.
> */
> 
> I am agree with you about that drivers shouldn't be looking at it. But
> adding PAGE_POOL_DMA_USE_PP_FRAG_COUNT checking back to mlx5 seems to be
> the simplest way I can think of because of the reason mentioned above.
> 
> And it seems that it is hard to change mlx5 to use frag API according to
> the below disscusion with Alexander:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/CAKgT0UeD=sboWNUsP33_UsKEKyqTBfeOqNO5NCdFaxh9KXEG3w@mail.gmail.com/

It's better to add a flag like PP_FLAG_PAGE_FRAG for this use case and
have pool creation fail than poke at internals in the driver, IMO.