netdev - Re: [RFC net-next v1] tools: ynl: Add an strace rendering mode to ynl-gen

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Message-ID: <20230616111129.311dfd2d@kernel.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:11:29 -0700
From: Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>
To: Donald Hunter <donald.hunter@...il.com>
Cc: netdev@...r.kernel.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric
 Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>,
 donald.hunter@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC net-next v1] tools: ynl: Add an strace rendering mode to
 ynl-gen

On Fri, 16 Jun 2023 11:17:25 +0100 Donald Hunter wrote:
> Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 16:13:36 +0100 Donald Hunter wrote:  
> >> Add --mode strace to ynl-gen-c.py to generate source files for strace
> >> that teach it to understand how to decode genetlink messages defined
> >> in the spec. I successfully used this to add openvswitch message
> >> decoding to strace as I described in:
> >> 
> >> https://donaldh.wtf/2023/06/teaching-strace-new-tricks/
> >> 
> >> It successfully generated ovs_datapath and ovs_vport but ovs_flow
> >> needed manual fixes to fix code ordering and forward declarations.
> >> 
> >> Limitations:
> >> 
> >> - Uses a crude mechanism to try and emit functions in the right order
> >>   which fails for ovs_flow  
> >
> > What's the dependency? I pushed some stuff recently to try to order
> > types more intelligently but for normal C netlink it still won't deal
> > with cycles :(  
> 
> For strace I need to emit attr decoder functions before referencing them
> in dispatch tables. The crude mechanism I used was to emit decoders for
> nested attributes first, which worked okay for e.g. ovs_vport. But
> ovs_flow has I think at least 1 cycle.
> 
> > Actually I think that you're using raw family info rather than the
> > codegen-focused structs, maybe that's why?  
> 
> Yes, that's a fair point. I'm just walking through the declared
> attribute-sets in the order defined in the schema. I can take a look at
> what the codegen-focused structs provide.
> 
> >> - Outputs all strace sources to stdout or a single file
> >> - Does not use the right semantic strace decoders for e.g. IP or MAC
> >>   addresses because there is no schema information to say what the
> >>   domain type is.  
> >
> > The interpretation depends on another attribute or we expose things 
> > as binary with no machine-readable indication if its IP addr or MAC etc?  
> 
> Yeah, it's the lack of machine-readable indication. I'd suggest adding
> something like 'format: ipv4-address' to the schema.

I'd prefer to avoid defining our own names, too much thinking :)
Two ideas which come to mind are to either add a struct reference
(struct in_addr, in this case) or use the printk formats
Documentation/core-api/printk-formats.rst (%pI4).

> >> This seems like a useful tool to have as part of the ynl suite since
> >> it lowers the cost of getting good strace support for new netlink
> >> families. But I realise that the generated format is dependent on an
> >> out of tree project. If there is interest in having this in-tree then
> >> I can clean it up and address some of the limitations before
> >> submission.  
> >
> > I think it's fine, we'll have to cross this bridge sooner or later.
> > I suspect we'll need to split ynl-gen-c once again (like the
> > tools/net/ynl/lib/nlspec.py, maybe we need another layer for code 
> > generators? nlcodegen or some such?) before we add codegen for more
> > languages. I'm not sure you actually need that yet, maybe the strace
> > generator needs just nlspec.py and it can be a separate script?  
> 
> The strace generator uses CodeWriter and makes partial use of the Type*
> classes as well. If we split those out of ynl-gen-c then it could be a
> separate script. A first step could be to move all but main() into a
> lib?

Hm, my instinct was the opposite, move as little as possible while
avoiding duplication. I was thinking about the split in context of
C++ and Rust, there's a lot of C intermixed with the code currently
in ynl-gen-c. But you need the C, AFAIU.

You shouldn't need all the print_ stuff, tho, do you? So we could split
more or less around where _C_KW is defined? Anything above it would be
shared among C codegens?