netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v3 3/4] page_pool: introduce page_pool

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Message-ID: <ZI8dP5+guKdR7IFE@lore-desk>
Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2023 17:05:35 +0200
From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@...hat.com>, brouer@...hat.com,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>, davem@...emloft.net,
	kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@...hat.com>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 3/4] page_pool: introduce page_pool_alloc()
 API

[...]
> >
> > Yes, precisely.
> > I distinctly remember what I tried to poke you and Eric on this approach
> > earlier, but I cannot find a link to that email.
> >
> > I would really appreciate, if you Alex, could give the approach in
> > veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff() some review, as I believe that is a huge
> > potential for improvements that will lead to large performance
> > improvements. (I'm sure Maryam will be eager to help re-test performance
> > for her use-cases).
> 
> Well just looking at it the quick and dirty answer would be to look at
> making use of something like page_frag_cache. I won't go into details
> since it isn't too different from the frag allocator, but it is much
> simpler since it is just doing reference count hacks instead of having
> to do the extra overhead to keep the DMA mapping in place. The veth
> would then just be sitting on at most an order 3 page while it is
> waiting to fully consume it rather than waiting on a full pool of
> pages.

Hi,

I did some experiments using page_frag_cache/page_frag_alloc() instead of
page_pools in a simple environment I used to test XDP for veth driver.
In particular, I allocate a new buffer in veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff() from
the page_frag_cache in order to copy the full skb in the new one, actually
"linearizing" the packet (since we know the original skb length).
I run an iperf TCP connection over a veth pair where the
remote device runs the xdp_rxq_info sample (available in the kernel source
tree, with action XDP_PASS):

TCP clietn -- v0 === v1 (xdp_rxq_info) -- TCP server

net-next (page_pool):
- MTU 1500B: ~  7.5 Gbps
- MTU 8000B: ~ 15.3 Gbps

net-next + page_frag_alloc:
- MTU 1500B: ~  8.4 Gbps
- MTU 8000B: ~ 14.7 Gbps

It seems there is no a clear "win" situation here (at least in this environment
and we this simple approach). Moreover:
- can the linearization introduce any issue whenever we perform XDP_REDIRECT
  into a destination device?
- can the page_frag_cache introduce more memory fragmentation (IIRC we were
  experiencing this issue in mt76 before switching to page_pools).

What do you think?

Regards,
Lorenzo

> 
> Alternatively it could do something similar to page_frag_alloc_align
> itself and just bypass doing a custom allocator. If it went that route
> it could do something almost like a ring buffer and greatly improve
> the throughput since it would be able to allocate a higher order page
> and just copy the entire skb in so the entire thing would be linear
> rather than having to allocate a bunch of single pages.

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