netdev - Re: [PATCH net-next v3 3/4] page_pool: introduce page_pool

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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2023 23:16:59 +0200
From: Lorenzo Bianconi <lorenzo@...nel.org>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@...il.com>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <jbrouer@...hat.com>, brouer@...hat.com,
	Yunsheng Lin <linyunsheng@...wei.com>, davem@...emloft.net,
	kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com, netdev@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@...aro.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@...hat.com>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3 3/4] page_pool: introduce page_pool_alloc()
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> > I did some experiments using page_frag_cache/page_frag_alloc() instead of
> > page_pools in a simple environment I used to test XDP for veth driver.
> > In particular, I allocate a new buffer in veth_convert_skb_to_xdp_buff() from
> > the page_frag_cache in order to copy the full skb in the new one, actually
> > "linearizing" the packet (since we know the original skb length).
> > I run an iperf TCP connection over a veth pair where the
> > remote device runs the xdp_rxq_info sample (available in the kernel source
> > tree, with action XDP_PASS):
> >
> > TCP clietn -- v0 === v1 (xdp_rxq_info) -- TCP server
> >
> > net-next (page_pool):
> > - MTU 1500B: ~  7.5 Gbps
> > - MTU 8000B: ~ 15.3 Gbps
> >
> > net-next + page_frag_alloc:
> > - MTU 1500B: ~  8.4 Gbps
> > - MTU 8000B: ~ 14.7 Gbps
> >
> > It seems there is no a clear "win" situation here (at least in this environment
> > and we this simple approach). Moreover:
> 
> For the 1500B packets it is a win, but for 8000B it looks like there
> is a regression. Any idea what is causing it?

nope, I have not looked into it yet.

> 
> > - can the linearization introduce any issue whenever we perform XDP_REDIRECT
> >   into a destination device?
> 
> It shouldn't. If it does it would probably point to an issue w/ the
> destination driver rather than an issue with the code doing this.

ack, fine.

> 
> > - can the page_frag_cache introduce more memory fragmentation (IIRC we were
> >   experiencing this issue in mt76 before switching to page_pools).
> 
> I think it largely depends on where the packets are ending up. I know
> this is the approach we are using for sockets, see
> skb_page_frag_refill(). If nothing else, if you took a similar
> approach to it you might be able to bypass the need for the
> page_frag_cache itself, although you would likely still end up
> allocating similar structures.

ack.

Regards,
Lorenzo

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