netdev - Re: [PATCH] USB: disable all RNDIS protocol drivers

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Message-ID: <6a4a8980912380085ea628049b5e19e38bcd8e1d.camel@sipsolutions.net>
Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2023 15:00:55 +0200
From: Johannes Berg <johannes@...solutions.net>
To: Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.com>, Greg Kroah-Hartman
	 <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, Enrico Mioso <mrkiko.rs@...il.com>
Cc: Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@...i.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, "David
 S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Jakub
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 <neil.armstrong@...aro.org>, Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
 Andrzej Pietrasiewicz <andrzejtp2010@...il.com>, Jacopo Mondi
 <jacopo@...ndi.org>, Łukasz Stelmach
 <l.stelmach@...sung.com>,  Laurent Pinchart
 <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>, linux-usb@...r.kernel.org,
 netdev@...r.kernel.org,  linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org, Ilja Van Sprundel
 <ivansprundel@...ctive.com>,  Joseph Tartaro <joseph.tartaro@...ctive.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: disable all RNDIS protocol drivers

On Wed, 2023-07-12 at 11:22 +0200, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> 
> On 04.07.23 08:47, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 03, 2023 at 11:11:57PM +0200, Enrico Mioso wrote:
> > > Hi all!!
> > > 
> > > I think the rndis_host USB driver might emit a warning in the dmesg, but disabling the driver wouldn't be a good idea.
> > > The TP-Link MR6400 V1 LTE modem and also some ZTE modems integrated in routers do use this protocol.
> > > 
> > > We may also distinguish between these cases and devices you might plug in - as they pose different risk levels.
> > 
> > Again, you have to fully trust the other side of an RNDIS connection,
> > any hints on how to have the kernel determine that?

> it is a network protocol. So this statement is kind of odd.
> Are you saying that there are RNDIS messages that cannot be verified
> for some reason, that still cannot be disclosed?

Agree, it's also just a USB device, so no special trickery with DMA,
shared buffers, etc.

I mean, yeah, the RNDIS code is really old and almost certainly has a
severe lack of input validation, but that still doesn't mean it's
fundamentally impossible.

johannes