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Message-ID: <ZNEkofzo04pCbFvO@google.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2023 10:06:41 -0700
From: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@...gle.com>
To: Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@...el.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>, Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@...nel.org>, 
	Willem de Bruijn <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com>, bpf <bpf@...r.kernel.org>, 
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...nel.org>, Daniel Borkmann <daniel@...earbox.net>, 
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@...nel.org>, Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@...ux.dev>, Song Liu <song@...nel.org>, 
	Yonghong Song <yhs@...com>, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@...il.com>, KP Singh <kpsingh@...nel.org>, 
	Hao Luo <haoluo@...gle.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>, David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>, 
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@...nel.org>, Willem de Bruijn <willemb@...gle.com>, 
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>, Anatoly Burakov <anatoly.burakov@...el.com>, 
	Alexander Lobakin <alexandr.lobakin@...el.com>, Magnus Karlsson <magnus.karlsson@...il.com>, 
	Maryam Tahhan <mtahhan@...hat.com>, xdp-hints@...-project.net, 
	Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, Simon Horman <simon.horman@...igine.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v4 12/21] xdp: Add checksum hint

On 08/07, Larysa Zaremba wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 06:03:26PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 3:56 AM Larysa Zaremba <larysa.zaremba@...el.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 30, 2023 at 09:13:02AM -0400, Willem de Bruijn wrote:
> > > > Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 9:15 AM Willem de Bruijn
> > > > > <willemdebruijn.kernel@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 07:39:14PM +0200, Larysa Zaremba wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +union xdp_csum_info {
> > > > > > > > +   /* Checksum referred to by ``csum_start + csum_offset`` is considered
> > > > > > > > +    * valid, but was never calculated, TX device has to do this,
> > > > > > > > +    * starting from csum_start packet byte.
> > > > > > > > +    * Any preceding checksums are also considered valid.
> > > > > > > > +    * Available, if ``status == XDP_CHECKSUM_PARTIAL``.
> > > > > > > > +    */
> > > > > > > > +   struct {
> > > > > > > > +           u16 csum_start;
> > > > > > > > +           u16 csum_offset;
> > > > > > > > +   };
> > > > > > > > +
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > CHECKSUM_PARTIAL makes sense on TX, but this RX. I don't see in the above.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It can be observed on RX when packets are looped.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This may be observed even in XDP on veth.
> > > > >
> > > > > veth and XDP is a broken combination. GSO packets coming out of containers
> > > > > cannot be parsed properly by XDP.
> > > > > It was added mainly for testing. Just like "generic XDP".
> > > > > bpf progs at skb layer is much better fit for veth.
> > > >
> > > > Ok. Still, seems forward looking and little cost to define the
> > > > constant?
> > > >
> > >
> > > +1
> > > CHECKSUM_PARTIAL is mostly for testing and removing/adding it doesn't change
> > > anything from the perspective of the user that does not use it, so I think it is
> > > worth having.
> > 
> > "little cost to define the constant".
> > Not really. A constant in UAPI is a heavy burden.
> 
> Sorry for the delayed response.
> 
> I still do not comprehend the problem fully for this particular case, 
> considering it shouldn't block any future changes to the API by itself.
> 
> But, I personally have no reason to push hard the veth-supporting changes 
> (aside from wanting the tests to look nicer).
> 
> Still, before removing this in v5, I would like to get some additional feedback 
> on this, preferably from Jesper (who, if I remember correctly, takes an interest 
> in XDP on veth) or Stanislav.
> 
> If instead of union xdp_csum_info we will have just checksum as a second 
> argument, there will be no going back for this particular kfunc, so I want to be 
> sure nobody will ever need such feature.
> 
> [...]

I'm interested in veth only from the testing pow, so if we lose
csum_partial on veth (and it becomes _none?), I don't see any issue
with that.