netdev - Re: [PATCH v1] tcp: enhancing timestamps random algo to address issues arising from NAT mapping

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Message-ID: <CANn89i+WshtNwNSALCpbQbZFWN41xP85+c8GdHX2DabzQzx+6A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2023 10:05:09 +0200
From: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>
To: George Guo <guodongtai@...inos.cn>, Florian Westphal <fw@...len.de>
Cc: davem@...emloft.net, kuba@...nel.org, pabeni@...hat.com, 
	dsahern@...nel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] tcp: enhancing timestamps random algo to address
 issues arising from NAT mapping

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 3:46 AM George Guo <guodongtai@...inos.cn> wrote:
>
> Tsval=tsoffset+local_clock, here tsoffset is randomized with saddr and daddr parameters in func
> secure_tcp_ts_off. Most of time it is OK except for NAT mapping to the same port and daddr.
> Consider the following scenario:
>         ns1:                ns2:
>         +-----------+        +-----------+
>         |           |        |           |
>         |           |        |           |
>         |           |        |           |
>         | veth1     |        | vethb     |
>         |192.168.1.1|        |192.168.1.2|
>         +----+------+        +-----+-----+
>              |                     |
>              |                     |
>              | br0:192.168.1.254   |
>              +----------+----------+
>          veth0          |     vetha
>          192.168.1.3    |    192.168.1.4
>                         |
>                        nat(192.168.1.x -->172.30.60.199)
>                         |
>                         V
>                        eth0
>                  172.30.60.199
>                        |
>                        |
>                        +----> ... ...    ---->server: 172.30.60.191
>
> Let's say ns1 (192.168.1.1) generates a timestamp ts1, and ns2 (192.168.1.2) generates a timestamp
> ts2, with ts1 > ts2.
>
> If ns1 initiates a connection to a server, and then the server actively closes the connection,
> entering the TIME_WAIT state, and ns2 attempts to connect to the server while port reuse is in
> progress, due to the presence of NAT, the server sees both connections as originating from the
> same IP address (e.g., 172.30.60.199) and port. However, since ts2 is smaller than ts1, the server
> will respond with the acknowledgment (ACK) for the fourth handshake.
>
>        SERVER                                                   CLIENT
>
>    1.  ESTABLISHED                                              ESTABLISHED
>
>        (Close)
>    2.  FIN-WAIT-1  --> <SEQ=100><ACK=300><TSval=20><CTL=FIN,ACK>  --> CLOSE-WAIT
>
>    3.  FIN-WAIT-2  <-- <SEQ=300><ACK=101><TSval=40><CTL=ACK>      <-- CLOSE-WAIT
>
>                                                             (Close)
>    4.  TIME-WAIT   <-- <SEQ=300><ACK=101><TSval=41><CTL=FIN,ACK>  <-- LAST-ACK
>
>    5.  TIME-WAIT   --> <SEQ=101><ACK=301><TSval=25><CTL=ACK>      --> CLOSED
>
>   - - - - - - - - - - - - - port reused - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>    5.1. TIME-WAIT   <-- <SEQ=255><TSval=30><CTL=SYN>             <-- SYN-SENT
>
>    5.2. TIME-WAIT   --> <SEQ=101><ACK=301><TSval=35><CTL=ACK>    --> SYN-SENT
>
>    5.3. CLOSED      <-- <SEQ=301><CTL=RST>                       <-- SYN-SENT
>
>    6.  SYN-RECV    <-- <SEQ=255><TSval=34><CTL=SYN>              <-- SYN-SENT
>
>    7.  SYN-RECV    --> <SEQ=400><ACK=301><TSval=40><CTL=SYN,ACK> --> ESTABLISHED
>
>    1.  ESTABLISH   <-- <SEQ=301><ACK=401><TSval=55><CTL=ACK>     <-- ESTABLISHED
>
> This enhancement uses sport and daddr rather than saddr and daddr, which keep the timestamp
> monotonically increasing in the situation described above. Then the port reuse is like this:
>
>        SERVER                                                   CLIENT
>
>    1.  ESTABLISHED                                              ESTABLISHED
>
>        (Close)
>    2.  FIN-WAIT-1  --> <SEQ=100><ACK=300><TSval=20><CTL=FIN,ACK>  --> CLOSE-WAIT
>
>    3.  FIN-WAIT-2  <-- <SEQ=300><ACK=101><TSval=40><CTL=ACK>      <-- CLOSE-WAIT
>
>                                                             (Close)
>    4.  TIME-WAIT   <-- <SEQ=300><ACK=101><TSval=41><CTL=FIN,ACK>  <-- LAST-ACK
>
>    5.  TIME-WAIT   --> <SEQ=101><ACK=301><TSval=25><CTL=ACK>      --> CLOSED
>
>   - - - - - - - - - - - - - port reused - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
>    5.1. TIME-WAIT  <-- <SEQ=300><TSval=50><CTL=SYN>               <-- SYN-SENT
>
>    6.  SYN-RECV    --> <SEQ=400><ACK=301><TSval=40><CTL=SYN,ACK>  --> ESTABLISHED
>
>    1.  ESTABLISH   <-- <SEQ=301><ACK=401><TSval=55><CTL=ACK>      <-- ESTABLISHED
>
> The enhancement lets port reused more efficiently.
>
> Signed-off-by: George Guo <guodongtai@...inos.cn>
>

CC Florian

I do not think we can 'fix' tcp timestamp vs NAT.
Unless the NAT device makes sure a port is dedicated for a peer,
and/or the NAT rewrites TS values
(which would be bad).

I personally prefer seeing the same timestamps from A to B regardless
of ports, it helps detect various issues.

Also, you seem to forget IPv6.